4.a Draft minutes 09-05-2023 Planning Commission
September 5, 2023
The Scandia Planning Commission held their regular monthly meeting on the above date. The
meeting was conducted in-person and virtually over an electronic platform. All participants who
joined the meeting remotely could hear each other and contribute to discussions.
Chair Travis Loeffler called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. The following were in attendance:
Commissioners Jan Hogle, Kirsten Libby, Travis Loeffler and Perry Rynders. Absent:
Commissioner Laszlo Fodor. Staff present: City Planner TJ Hofer, City Administrator Kyle
Morell, and City Clerk Brenda Eklund. City Council member liaison Steve Kronmiller was also
present.
PUBLIC FORUM
There were no public comments.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA, MINUTES
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to approve the agenda as presented. Motion carried
unanimously.
Hogle, second by Rynders, moved to approve the August 1, 2023 minutes as presented.
Motion carried unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE AT 18884 LAYTON AVENUE. JOSEPH &
KATHERINE REINHARDT, APPLICANTS
Joseph and Katherine Reinhardt are seeking an after-the-fact variance from the required wetland
setback for a driveway that they constructed in 2017 to gain access from Langly Avenue to the
rear of their 1.38-acre property at 18884 Layton Avenue. The driveway was constructed through
a protected wetland, and the applicants did not seek or receive a driveway, grading or wetland
permit prior to the driveway construction which filled 4,608 square feet of a protected wetland.
The same after-the-fact variance was granted for the driveway in 2018, but the variance expired
without the conditions of approval being met.
Planner Hofer explained the conditions of the approved variance from 2018 to combine the five
separate lots into one legal parcel which was not met; non-conforming parcels within shoreland
are required to be combined when developed. Due to the violations that have occurred regarding
the driveway, the DNR is holding a lien on the property.
Planner Hofer explained the applicants’ rationale that this access is needed to their septic system
and accessory structures.
Planner Hofer analyzed the criteria from the development code for approving a variance and
determined the standards were not met with this application. An alternative access to the area is
available to avoid the wetland without a variance. The request is inconsistent with UDC and
Comprehensive Plan to protect natural resources. Hofer presented two alternative
recommendations, one with findings and conditions of approval; however staff recommended
denial with findings.
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Chair Loeffler asked Planner Hofer to explain the criteria and staff findings. Hofer stated that the
proposed use is not a reasonable use of property, the plight is caused by the landowner, a
practical difficulty does not exist, and the requested variance is not the minimum action required
to provide access to the septic system and Langly parcels. Hofer also summarized the feedback
from the wetland agency and the Watershed. The applicant needs to resubmit and fulfill the
wetland mitigation requirements to WCA.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to open the public hearing at 6:19 p.m. Motion carried 4-
0.
Craig Pittman, Layton Avenue: Said he lives four doors down from property and near the access,
and that he represents the neighbors, who are opposed to approval of the variance for several
reasons. The applicant parks vehicles on Layton Avenue that are a nuisance in restricting travel
along the roadway; he is accumulating more vehicles, including numerous motor homes and boat
trailers being parked on the shoulder. Pittman said this is safety factor for the neighborhood. Said
the neighborhood is concerned this parking could grow onto Langly Avenue if the variance is
approved. Said Reinhardt is pushing snow into a wetland across Langly with gravel and debris
that drains to the lake. Said he is pumping the wetlands in the spring to drain water off the illegal
driveway. Pittman said they have concern for the lake quality. Pittman said Reinhardt continues
to bring fill into the back of the lot and is accumulating a growing number of inoperable vehicles
in the back, making it look like a junkyard having vehicles and debris along the backside of
Langly. Pittman said he has pictures of diesel fuel spillage from the tractors. Pittman said if the
variance is approved, there should be strict contingencies on what can be on the property.
Dick Bohrer, Layton Avenue: Said he agrees with Pittman. Asked if Reinhardt combined the lots
to apply for a variance? Chair Loeffler said the separate lots have not been combined.
Sharon Bohrer, Layton Avenue: Said that she told Reinhardt he had to get a permit when
constructing the access, but Reinhardt said that he gets by without doing the right things. Bohrer
said he pushes buttons until he gets his way, and she receives constant harassment from him.
Applicant Katie Reinhardt, Layton Avenue: Said they have multiple files and legal maps to
explain that their access is being taken away; they have gone above and beyond to deal with this.
Said their family doesn’t deserve having more taken away from them by the city. Reinhardt said
the staff report is inaccurate, and that their application was altered without their consent and
permission. Chair Loeffler explained that the variance narrative from 2018 was added to this
application request in order to provide greater clarity. City Administrator Morell added that Mr.
Reinhardt was told this when the variance application was brought in. Morell said that staff
consulted with the City Prosecutor, with no concerns for this.
Ms. Reinhardt said that false information is being provided – there were no wetlands on the
property when purchased, saying they have printed maps from Washington County showing no
wetlands. Said that no agencies can tell them when the wetland was manufactured. Chair
Loeffler said wetlands do appear as nature and water changes, and plant life is evidence of a
wetland nature; wetlands do change over time. Loeffler said that indicative plant life was
observed at the site visit in 2018. Reinhardt said they did extensive research on their property
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when it was purchased and a wetland was not present. She said it’s frustrating that they have
helped out the neighbors, and now the neighborhood is harassing the Reinhardt’s. She said they
want to use the property as it is platted. She said they have tried to work this out with staff over
the years, and it’s time to advocate to staff on morals and ethics about what is right and wrong –
the city is taking something from our family that we purchased. They are asking to use the
property as platted, and did what they told was possible from a past administrator.
Chair Loeffler noted that himself, Hogle and Rynders were also involved in the 2018 variance
request and are providing consistency to this request. In 2018, the Planning Commission denied
the variance request, but the City Council approved it with conditions.
Tom Mattox, Layton Avenue: Questioned that if wetlands are not allowed to be filled or have
structures on it, how can he use his property to develop it? Chair Loeffler directed him to check
with the Watershed District.
There were no further public comments.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to close the public hearing at 6:39 p.m. Motion carried 4-
0.
Commissioner Rynders said he concurs with denial. Rynders asked staff to clarify the
application. City Administrator Morell explained that more information was needed on the
application, and the applicants were told that staff would use the prior narrative from 2018.
However, this was not sent to the applicant to review prior to meeting. Planner Hofer stated that
the applicant was provided the variance narrative in August.
Commissioner Hogle said she remembers cattails were present at the site in 2018.
Commissioner Rynders said he recalls from 2018 discussion about other accesses, and that the
septic tanks were hindering an alternative. Rynders said that today’s site visit shows they are
being accessed from the other side, and appears to be the case today.
Commissioner Libby asked if they recommend approval with conditions as similar as before,
will there be anything the applicant can do to meet the conditions? Commissioner Hogle asked if
any conditions were met with the City’s previous approval? Planner Hofer replied that not to his
knowledge, but a wetland application may have been made.
Commissioner Libby explained that a property tax combination differs from a deed combination.
A legal description on a title is one parcel, but can be separate for tax purposes.
Chair Loeffler said that on the site visit he observed wetland plant life, and that the driveway
exists as he remembers it from 2018. Loeffler said he has no change to his opinion to deny the
variance again.
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Commissioner Libby said rules were different in 2018; engineering standards have changed and
a property can get multiple accesses. Commissioner Hogle said this was not the discussion at the
time; it was the wetland fill that violated the rules.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to recommend to City Council to deny the after-the-fact
variance to allow a driveway occupying a wetland for 18884 Layton Avenue North.
Chair Loeffler asked Planner Hofer to review the findings in the denial resolution. Loeffler asked
that if denied, where does the lot combination come in? Planner Hofer said this is state law, but
he would have to consult with legal staff if able to impose this condition in a denial resolution.
Motion carried 4-0 by a roll call vote.
The recommendation to deny a variance for a wetland setback at 18884 Layton Avenue will be
presented to the City Council on September 19th.
PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE AT 12632 182ND STREET NORTH. DENNIS
PALKERT, APPLICANT
Dennis Palkert is requesting an after-the-fact variance for a patio that was constructed within the
ordinary high-water setback from Big Marine Lake. The applicant was granted a variance from
the city in 2020 to construct a new residence at 12632 182nd Street that allowed a 71.6’ lake
setback for structures. However, during the development of the site, an additional patio was
expanded beyond the approved site plan to a distance of 62.6’ from the OHWL. The applicant
worked with the Watershed to remove a fire ring patio that was 14’ from the OHWL.
Planner Hofer explained that the expansion of the patio increased encroachment into the OHWL
by nine feet, to 62.6 feet. Hofer noted the conditions of the 2020 variance related to tree
replacement and mitigation of removed trees. Staff worked with Mr. Palkert who also submitted
a revised landscaping plan.
Planner Hofer reviewed the criteria related to the approval of a variance and found the request
inconsistent with the Unified Development Code and the 2040 Comprehensive Plan and
recommended the variance be denied. The expansion of the patio does not meet the standards of
a practical difficulty and is not consistent with the shoreland ordinance for increasing a
nonconformity. The plight of the landowner is due to the property owner’s actions. Hofer
recommended the applicant remove or reduce the patio to the approved setback from 2020.
Hofer provided two alternatives, one being a resolution to approve with findings and conditions.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to open the public hearing at 7:02 p.m. Motion carried 4-
0.
Applicant Dennis Palkert: Explained that the lower patio is 3.4’ further than what was allowed.
Said that he took ownership and removed the firepit and is working closely with the Watershed
District to be in compliance with them. Palkert said he is asking to retain the extra 3’ of the patio.
There were no further public comments.
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Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to close the hearing at 7:05 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Libby asked for clarification of the encroachment. Planner Hofer said the survey
shows a current setback of the lower patio at 62.6 feet, which is 9 feet more than approved in
2020. Mr. Palkert said he was referring to the hearing notice. Hofer said he is using the survey
measurement, and the hearing notice could be inaccurate.
Chair Loeffler asked about lot coverage with the additional patio. Planner Hofer noted
impervious surface of 24.69% with the lower patio. If the variance is approved to retain the
patio, Hofer stated that the Watershed will require a raingarden to capture runoff from a patio
that wasn’t initially there.
Chair Loeffler said the lower patio is entirely an add-on that encroaches into the lake an
additional 9 feet.
Commissioner Rynders said the originally approved variance was based on what they were going
to do; he has added more and is encroaching more into the OHWL setback. Rynders said he
would be okay to take off the nine feet as a compromise, but theoretically the whole patio was
not allowed.
Commissioner Libby asked how the larger patio came about. Staff explained it was on advice by
the landscaper.
Planner Hofer explained how the site can be brought into compliance. The City can deny the
variance for a 62.6’ variance, then administratively permit the lower patio at a reduced size.
Expansion of a non-conformity can be processed through an administrative permit, and the
applicant may keep the patio at a distance to what was originally approved by removing that
portion which exceeds the encroachment.
Chair Loeffler said he doesn’t like the idea of more pervious area encroaching into the lake
setback than what was approved, and is not entirely in favor of the lower patio.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to recommend the City Council deny a variance for an
expansion of a principal structure located at 12632 182nd Street. Motion carried 4-0 by roll
call vote.
The recommendation to deny a variance at 12632 182nd Street will be presented to the City
Council on September 19th.
PUBLIC HEARING: ZONING AMENDMENT (MAP), COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AMENDMENT (MAP), AND PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AT 21325
MEADOWBROOK AVENUE NORTH (REDEEMED FARM). JEFFREY GACEK,
APPLICANT
Jeffery Gacek is requesting a Comprehensive Plan Amendment from Agricultural Core to Rural
Commercial, a zoning map amendment for one parcel from AG-C to RC, and a Planned Unit
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Development (PUD) for multiple uses at 21325 Meadowbrook Avenue. The applicant wishes to
pursue a liquor license so as to no longer need to rely on caterers to provide and sell alcohol for
events at Redeemed Farm, a rural event facility. In the future, a restaurant will be allowed on the
site under the PUD. Being designated as a restaurant allows Redeemed Farm to be granted a
liquor license. A rezoning is needed to permit a restaurant as an allowed use in RC zoning.
Planner Hofer reviewed the standards to rezone for a map and comprehensive plan amendment,
and found the standards to be met. Hofer said the application also meets the criteria for a PUD as
described in the staff report. The flexibility of a PUD permits more than one principal structure
and use on a parcel of land. This parcel contains a single-family residence, an agricultural use
(vineyard), a rural event facility, and a future restaurant. Hofer said he included the standards for
a rural event center in the ordinance for zoning the parcel as a PUD.
Hofer concluded with a recommendation of approval for the request. A draft resolution for the
City Council was prepared approving an amendment to the Future Land Use Map in the 2040
Comp Plan, a draft ordinance amending the city’s zoning map to rezone the parcel from Ag-Core
to Rural Commercial and PUD, and a draft resolution approving findings of fact for the rezoning.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to open the public hearing at 7:39 p.m. Motion carried 4-
0.
Curt Peterson, Meadowbrook Avenue: Said the event center was loud when it first started, but
sound deadening has improved this. Said he is concerned that if approved for commercial
zoning, what activities could occur -- a loud bar or strip joint? This is a rural residential area, and
a quiet peaceful neighborhood is expected.
Joanne Benick, 213th Street: How many lots could be rezoned, as Gacek owns two parcels. Staff
explained that only the parcel that holds Redeemed Farm with the buildings would be rezoned;
the other parcel to the north will remain Ag Core. Benick asked if sold, could this be a
restaurant? Staff answered yes, it would be permitted as a restaurant under rural commercial
zoning. Benick asked if the liquor license would be transferable to new owner? Staff answered
that licenses are renewed annually, and a new owner would need to apply to the city. Benick
asked about the Engineer’s comments on the street standards for Meadowbrook Avenue? The
driveway entrance for two-way traffic is there. Benick asked if the parking lot size will increase?
Staff said there are no proposed site plan changes to the property.
Patti Peterson, Meadowbrook Ave: Asked if the zoning remains if the property owner sells in the
future? Staff answered yes, the PUD and rezoning remain in perpetuity if ownership changes.
Applicant Jeff Gacek, Meadowbrook Ave: Said that all we want to do is take the responsibility
to serve alcohol for events, and would have to qualify as a restaurant for this license, which
needs the property to be rezoned. Gacek said he has no intention of running a restaurant and will
continue as an event center. A PUD is needed because we live on the property, and is a way for
the city to restrict future use on the property. Gacek said he is open to any restrictions you want
to place in the PUD for a restaurant. Gacek explained that a 2-lane driveway exists to conform to
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the original CUP. Gacek concluded that he wants to be responsible and do the right thing, and is
looking for approval for serving and overseeing consumption of alcohol for their events.
City Administrator Morell clarified the definition from state statute that a liquor license requires
the business serve food as a restaurant. It’s only appropriate to extend this condition as a
restaurant classification to Redeemed Farm as it applies to the other event centers such as The
Creamery and Rustic Roots.
There were no further comments.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to close hearing at 7:56 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Hogle said the applicant had a question about a condition in the CUP for security.
Gacek said he offered to provide their own security when first approved for an IUP. When the
operation changed to a CUP, a condition to use County deputies was added to the permit. Gacek
said he would just like to have an option to use private security; not to remove the requirement
but be treated as other rural event facilities are operating.
Planner Hofer noted that the condition found on page 9 of the staff report could be amended.
Commissioner Libby asked how were the conditions collected in the report? Planner Hofer
explained based on standards for a PUD approval (operating conditions for the site) and by
incorporating the original conditions from the CUP. Commissioner Libby said Redeemed Farm
should be treated similarly as the other rural event centers.
Commissioner Rynders said the proposal makes sense and that he supports it.
Chair Loeffler questioned if there was another way other than to call it a restaurant, or to put in
place restrictions to operate as a restaurant? Commissioner Libby said she would advise no to
restrictions that could affect future uses. Libby said they shouldn’t put restrictions on a restaurant
as that doesn’t make business sense. Planner Hofer said this definition is from the UDC, which is
broad and provides options, but restricting usability of the site could have future unintended
consequences. Hofer stated that no additions can be made to the site plan without a PUD
amendment – this PUD is subject to a site plan with no other structures added and is the guiding
document.
Staff may require an accurate up-to-date site plan so to limit development to the existing; a future
change requires a PUD amendment.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to recommend to the City Council approval of an
amendment to the Future Land Use Map from Ag Core to Rural Commercial for PID
16.032.20.31.0006. Motion carried 4-0 by roll call vote.
Planner Hofer explained that if the amendment is approved by the City Council, the
recommendation will go to the Met Council for their review.
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Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to recommend to the City Council to approve an
Ordinance amending the official zoning map to rezone PID 16.032.20.31.0006 from Ag-
Core to Rural Commercial and Planned Unit Development with amendments to a condition
for serving alcohol and security on site. Motion carried 4-0.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the
Findings of Fact for Rezoning PID 16.032.20.31.0006 with submittal of a site plan. Motion
carried 4-0.
The recommendation to approve zoning amendments will be presented to the City Council on
September 19th.
PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO THE CITY’S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT
CODE REGARDING DEFINITIONS FOR PYLON/PEDESTAL SIGNS (SECTION
153.400.100)
Planner Hofer explained that staff identified an error in the UDC adopted in 2022. Currently
pylon/pedestal signs are allowed in Village and Business Districts, and prohibited in Agricultural
and Rural Districts. The City Council recommended the Commission hold a public hearing to
amend the code that would prohibit pylon/pedestal signs in all districts.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to open the public hearing at 8:35 p.m. Motion carried 4-
0.
There were no public comments.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to close the public hearing. Motion carried 4-0.
Chair Loeffler asked when an exception would be allowed as historically accurate? Planner
Hofer said this language would give some flexibility if requested, and gave an example of a gas
station.
Loeffler, second by Rynders, moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the
amendments to the UDC regarding pylon/pedestal signs. Motion carried 4-0 by roll call
vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO THE CITY’S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT
CODE REGARDING LIVESTOCK, DOMESTIC FARM ANIMALS, DOMESTIC
FOWL, AND OTHER STANDARDS IMPACTING THE USES (SECTION 153.300.020
AND 153.600.30)
Planner Hofer explained the impact the current definition of livestock and operations as it related
to a recent application, and the Commission asked staff to review the UDC for a clearer
distinction for the keeping of poultry. Hofer said the proposed changes allow for correct
identification of where domestic fowl and bee keeping may be allowed, both low intensity uses
as compared to larger livestock. Hofer noted no changes to a 200’ setback for structures to house
animals; however, exempted for poultry coops but must meet setbacks for property. The section
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on keeping fowl on small acres was moved to the keeping of animals section. A revised
definition closed a loophole for exotic animals.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to open the public hearing at 8:45 p.m. Motion carried 4-
0.
There were no public comments.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to close the public hearing. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Libby asked if the beekeeping language is new? Planner Hofer said yes, based on
ordinances from surrounding communities and beekeeping websites, but refined as he saw fit.
Commissioner Libby said they should have expert input on this new language from a local
beekeeper. Libby said she would be concerned a permit would be required if adopted and asked
if this is necessary? Commissioner Hogle said this would be an unnecessary barrier.
Planner Hofer recommended the Commission strike the bee keeping section and direct staff to
investigate and research this further.
Rynders, second by Libby, moved to amend the draft ordinance to remove the beekeeping
section, and recommend the City Council adopt the amendments to the UDC regarding
Domestic Farm Animals, Livestock, and Domestic Fowl Standards. Motion carried 4-0 by
roll call vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO THE CITY’S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT
CODE REGARDING DEFINITIONS FOR YARDS AS THEY RELATE TO RIPARIAN
LOTS (SECTION 153.600.020)
Planner Hofer described the proposed amendments for the terminology and definitions for
riparian lots, to state that riparian lots have front and rear yards.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to open the public hearing at 8:58 p.m. Motion carried 4-
0.
There were no public comments.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to close the public hearing. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioners were in consensus on agreement to the amendments.
Council member Kronmiller asked about front and rear lot line terminology. Planner Hofer said
the issues around this amendment are more about the yard definition, and he sees no enforcement
issues with the lot line and yard definitions.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the UDC
amendment regarding definitions for front and rear yard. Motion carried 4-0 by roll call
vote.
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PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO THE CITY’S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT
CODE REGARDING VACATION OR SHORT-TERM RENTALS (SECTION
153.300.020 AND 153.300.030)
Planner Hofer described an issue identified by the City Council in the Unified Development
Code that requires an Interim Use Permit for vacation and short-term rentals. When the UDC
was adopted in October 2022, this requirement likely created an unknown number of non-
conformities in the city. Hofer presented a proposed amendment to allow vacation and short-term
rentals in all districts other than I-P as a permitted use, and to strike the requirement for an IUP.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to open the public hearing at 9:03 p.m. Motion carried 4-
0.
There were no public comments.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to close the public hearing. Motion carried 4-0.
Chair Loeffler said this makes total sense.
Planner Hofer said any issues related to vacation rentals can be handled with the city’s nuisance
ordinance. Permits for IUPs require tracking and additional staff work, with methods to enforce
the concerns already in place.
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the UDC
amendment regarding short-term rentals. Motion carried 4-0 by roll call vote.
The recommendations for amendments to UDC for signs, livestock, definitions for yards, and
short-term rentals will be presented to the City Council on September 19th.
CITY COUNCIL UPDATES
At their August 15th meeting, the City Council approved a CUP and rezoning at 19690 Maxwill
Avenue North, and discussed the density disagreement between the 2040 Comprehensive Plan
and the Unified Development Code that sets inconsistent density standards in the Village
Neighborhood Base Zoning District.
FUTURE ITEMS: Next meeting – October 3, 2023
Public hearings will be scheduled for two variances and three CUP’s for distribution solar energy
systems on one property.
ADJOURNMENT
Rynders, second by Hogle, moved to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 4-0.
The meeting adjourned at 9:07 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brenda Eklund, City Clerk