02-07-2007 Special Meeting 5.. c.
February 7, 2007
A special meeting of the Scandia City Council was held on the above date. Mayor Dennis Seefeldt
called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. The following were present: Councilmembers Pete Crum,
Michael Harnetty, Dolores Peterson, Donnette Yehle, Mayor Dennis Seefeldt. Staff: Administrator
Anne Hurlburt, City Attorney Dave Hebert, Deputy Clerk Brenda Eklund, City Engineer Tom
Peterson.
The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the engineer's Environmental Study with property
owners of 197th and 205th Streets and to make a decision on whether to include either one or both of
the streets in the 2007 paving project.
City Engineer Tom Peterson summarized the Environmental Study Report of 205th and 197th Street
and reviewed the proposed improvements. The roads would be designed to direct run-off away
from the adjacent trout stream along 205th Street and also to treat the run-off before reaching the
river. On 197th, the grade would be lowered and the road widened to address safety concerns and to
improve drainage.
Councilmember Yehle asked if pond easements had been secured from property owners. Peterson
had not yet contacted the Clapp family due to an incorrect phone number.
Councilmember Harnetty felt that the improvements come at an extraordinary cost both financially
and non-financially. Is it conceivable to surface only the current conditions and not expand the
width of the road? Peterson stated: "Possibly, but this would not meet the minimum road standards.
The engineers were directed to keep two-foot shoulders". Councilmember Harnetty: "Could a
deviation be made from the standard?" Peterson explained that yes, it may be a possibility, but this
raises the elevation. Although the road can still be canted to the north for improved drainage, a
ditch is necessary on the north side of the road, trees would be impacted, and the watershed
requires treatment of run-off when improvements are made. Ponds are the best method for
treatment of run-off.
Councilmember Crum questioned the current cost of maintaining this road. Maintenance costs are
low. He pointed out that at a total cost of close to $400,000 for improvements, this could go a long
way towards maintenance of these roads for many years.
Councilmember Peterson thought it a shame to alter these roads, as they greatly contribute to the
area's history. The residents for many years prior had done the maintenance.
Councilmember Yehle pointed out that the long-term plan is to eventually pave all roads; however,
budgeting, prioritizing, consideration of rural character, tree removal, viewscapes and pond
easements all need to be considered in the overall picture, perhaps making the inclusion of the two
roads not a logical fit into this project.
Councilmember Harnetty felt that the current condition is satisfactory and the roads may not need
paving.
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Mayor Seefeldt discussed the concerns of easement costs, tree removal, unknown cost/benefits, no
input from the Park and Recreation Committee on the Log House Landing, and the possibility of
making no improvements greater than a fourteen-foot width. Seefeldt felt that there were too many
questions regarding the two roads to move ahead with them as part of the 2007 paving project, and
suggested that there could be a possibility to partner with the Car-Mar Watershed, DNR, or
National Park Service to help with the funding of improvements.
Pierce Lewis, Quinnell property owner, stated that if nothing were done, run-off of gravel into the
trout stream would continue. Mayor Seefeldt replied that this is where a joint project with the
watershed could eliminate this.
Richard Hudson, 20491 Ostrum Avenue, asked about an environmental impact report on Ostrum
Avenue, which is currently on the list of roads for this project. Mr. Hudson suggested that the
council give additional thought to the paving of this dead-end road.
Dennis Johnson, 197m Street property owner, asked if the gravel road can be tilted to reduce run-
off. Mayor Seefeldt replied that yes, the grader operator could make adjustments for this.
Lee Eginton, 197th Street property owner, prefers the rural character as it is now. Also, is the paving
of 197th inevitable? If the road comes up for paving in the future at a higher cost to residents,
maybe it should be included at this time. If paving is not inevitable, then he would prefer to keep it
off the paving project. Mayor Seefeldt didn't know this as a definite, as it could be studied with a
future project. Mr. Eginton stated that the road had been covered with Dresser trap rock many years
ago. This surface did not gulley and turn to clay as the current surface material is doing. Is it
possible to go back to this trap rock? Peterson stated that trap rock is more expensive, but lime rock
could be an option. Installing new and better drain tile would also help with drainage.
Terry Bennett, 19713 Quinnell, asked how shoulders are maintained. Mayor Seefeldt explained that
this is done with a shouldering blade on the truck.
Craig Christenson, 20661 Quint Avenue, brought up the past history of 205th Street. After the 1998
paving project, the road began to be maintained by the grader and he felt that the run-off problem
worsened. The natural crown of the road degraded and water began to flow off both sides of the
road. The minimal maintenance of the road seemed to work for many years before this.
Dolores Peterson made a motion to delete part of 205th Street from the 2007 Road Project,but
include 205th Street from Quinnell to approximately two-feet from Kathleen Wallace's
driveway,and to vacate 205th Street that goes over the railroad track to the bottom that meets
Quint Avenue. The city should not upgrade the hill that goes to Log House Landing as that is
very scenic and believes that the hill should be preserved as that is the history of the city,the
beginning of our community. To include 197th Street in the 2007 Road Project from Highway
95 to the top of the hill of 197th Street and delete the hill from the 2007 project as the hill
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should be preserved as that is the history of the city. Neither of these two streets are heavily
used and the cost for these two hills to be reconstructed are cost prohibitive and the city
would be destroying the history of our community. Donnette Yehle seconded the motion for
discussion.
Attorney Hebert advised that vacating a road requires a public hearing. This is not on the agenda
for this meeting therefore no discussion should begin. An alternative would be to close the road.
The council discussed that the form of the motion should be to delete the specific roads and to be
very clear on the reasons behind this decision.
Councilmember Peterson withdrew the motion. Councilmember Yehle withdrew the second on this
motion.
Dolores Peterson made a motion to adopt Resolution 02-07-07-01 Ordering Improvement and
Preparation of Plans with the amendment to eliminate Quint Avenue South and 205th Street
from Quinnell to east end. Michael Harnetty seconded the motion and motion adopted
unanimously.
Michael Harnetty made a motion to proceed with an engineering and environmental impact
study on Quint Avenue South and 205th Street from Quinnell to east end as a future project
or as a separate project in partnership with the watershed or alternative agency. Dennis
Seefeldt seconded the motion and motion adopted unanimously.
Kathleen Wallace, 16797 205th Street, thanked the council for their thoughtfulness in considering
the historic value of these roads and expressed her appreciation of their high level of involvement.
Lee Eginton questioned the assessment to property owners down the hill of 197th Street. Mayor
Seefeldt explained that it might be that they receive a partial assessment, but this would be decided
at the Assessment Hearing later in 2007.
Donnette Yehle made a motion to adjourn. Dolores Peterson seconded the motion and
meeting adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Saltfil
Brenda Eklund
City of Scandia Deputy Clerk
CITY OF SCANDIA
CITY COUNCIL AGENDA
Special Meeting
Wednesday, February 7, 2007
7:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order/Roll Call
2. 2007 Road Improvement Project
a) Report on Environmental Study, 205th and 197t" Street
City Engineer Tom Peterson
b) Consider Draft Resolution 02070701, Ordering Improvement and Preparation of Plans
3. Adjournment
Meeting Date: 2/7/2007
Agenda Item:
City Council Agenda Report
City of Scandia
14727 209th St. North, P.O. Box 128
Scandia, MN 55073 (651) 433-2274
Action Requested: After hearing a presentation by the City Engineer and taking public
comment on the study of 205t Street and 197th Streets, consider
whether or not to include them in the 2007 paving project.
Deadline/Timeline: Plans for the entire paving project are tentatively scheduled to be
presented to the Council for approval at the February 20, 2007 City
Council meeting. Bids would be taken in March and awarded at the
April 3, 2007 Council meeting for construction during the spring and
summer.
Background: • On November 21, 2006, when the Town Board voted to order the
2007 Road Improvement Project,205th Street and 197th Street
were excluded from the project pending further study of the
environmental impacts.
• The City's consulting engineers have completed their study, which
includes recommendations to minimize impacts from the project.
The City Council received the report at their January 16, 2007
meeting, and asked that this information be shared with property
owners affected by these two road segments.
• An invitation to the February 7, 2007 meeting and a copy of the
report was mailed to all property owners originally notified of the
improvement,plus additional residents who commented at the
initial hearing.
• At the January 16 meeting, the Council asked for updated cost
estimates for the road segments studied. Updated numbers are
attached.
• For 205th Street, total costs are up by an estimated $27,345. Much
of this amount is due to adding paving on the segment of Quint
Avenue south of 205th (the segment that allows users of 205th to
avoid a second railroad crossing). This is a relatively inexpensive
addition at$16,076, or$38.60 per linear foot, a portion of which
would be assessable ($8,927 for bituminous.) The rest of the
increase ($11,269) is due to additional costs for 205th, most of
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which would be paid by the city(only$2,761 of the increase is for
bituminous.)
• For 197th, the total costs are up by an estimated $90,382, only
$7,970 of which would be assessed. Most of the increase is due to
the extraordinary cost of the section of Quint from 197th to the
bottom of the hill, which is estimated at$301.20 per linear foot.
This compares to the flatter section of 197th which is estimated at
$52.30 per linear foot.
• In aggregate, the project cost estimate has increased by$117,727.
Of this amount $19,658 for bituminous surfacing would be
assessable, with the remainder to be absorbed by the City.
• The updated estimate does not include the cost of any additional
easements that might need to be acquired.
Recommendation: The Council should make a decision on whether to include either one
or both of the streets in the 2007 paving project. A delay in this
decision would delay the entire project. If the decision is not to
include these streets in the 2007 project,the Council may consider
adding them to a future project. A separate project to pave these
streets is not recommended because of the cost advantage of
combining them with other streets for bidding and financing purposes.
Attachments/ • Draft Resolution 02-07-07-01
Materials provided: • Updated Cost Estimates
• Letter to Residents
• 205th and 197th Street Environmental Study
Contact(s): Tom Peterson, City Engineer
BRA 651-604-4868
Prepared by: Anne Hurlburt, Administrator
(205te and 197th)
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02/01/07
CITY OF SCANDIA
RESOLUTION NO. 02-07-07-01
RESOLUTION ORDERING IMPROVEMENT AND PREPARATION OF PLANS
WHEREAS, a resolution of the Town Board adopted the October 17, 2006 fixed a date
for a Town Board hearing with reference to the improvement of the following streets and roads in
New Scandia Township, to-wit;
1. 197th Street from Highway 95 to Quint Avenue;
2. Quint Avenue So.;
3. 205th Street from Quinnell to east end;
by the application of Class 5 or other aggregate and other subgrade construction, ditch
construction and application of bituminous surfacing; and
'WHEREAS, ten days mailed notice and two weeks published notice of the hearing was
given and the hearing was held thereon on the 21 st day of November, 2006 at which all persons
desiring to be heard were given an opportunity to be heard thereon; and
WHEREAS, the City Council has ordered the preparation of preliminary plans
addressing environmental and safety issues connected with the improvement of said streets and
roads; and
WHEREAS, the City Council has determined that it is in the best interests of the City to
proceed with the improvement of said streets and roads.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF SCANDIA,WASHINGTON COUNTY, MINNESOTA:
1. That such improvement is hereby ordered as proposed in the Resolution adopted
October 17, 2006.
2. Thomas Peterson, Bonestroo Rosene Anderlik & Associates, is hereby designated
as the engineer for this improvement. The engineer shall prepare plans and
specifications for the making of such improvement.
Adopted by the Town Board this 7th day of February, 2007.
Dennis D. Seefeldt, Mayor
ATTEST
Anne Hurlburt, Clerk/Administrator
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DETAILED COST ESTIMATE
Item Unit Qty Unit Price Total Cost
197TH ST N.-HWY 95 TO QUINT AVE Length(ft) 600
Subgrade preparation SY 1600 $1.00 $1,600 Width(ft) 18
Geotextile fabric SY 100 $2.00 $200 %redone 5%
Subgrade correction CY 100 $8.00 $800 CI 5 base(in) 2.0
Ditch excavation CY 30 $5.00 $150 Bit base(in) 1.,5
Clear and Grub LS 1 $2,500 00 $2,500 Bit wear(in) 1 S
Class 5 aggregate base TN 150 $14.00 $2,100 Shoulder depth 3
Lime rock aggregate shouldering TN 75 $22 00 $1,650 Existing ravel 16
Topsoil CY 7 $20.00 $140
Seeding AC 0.15 $2,000.00 $300 4-
Subtotal $9,440 52'g()I L(=
5%Contingency 472
Subtotal $9,912
30%Indirect Cost 2,970
Total $12,882 I2 87L C..440 At- ev0
Bituminous Cost
Bituminous base course TN 145 $52 00 $7,540
Bituminous wear course TN 110 $55 00 $6,050
Tack Coat GAL 60 $3.00 $180
Subtotal $13,770
5%Contingency $689
Subtotal $14,459
30%Indirect Cost $4,340
Total Bitu $18,799 /6 //`/
QUINT AVE;197TH TO BOTTOM OF HILL Length(ft) 700
Subgrade preparation SY 1750 $1.00 $1,750 Width(ft) 18
Geotextile fabric SY 1750 $2.00 $3,500 %redone 5%
Subgrade correction CY 150 $8 00 $1,200 CI 5 base(in) 2.0
Select granular CY 600 $15.00 $9,000
Granular fill CY 300 $5.00 $1,500
Rock excavation CY 425 $50.00 $21,250 Bit base(in) 1.5
Clear and Grub LS 1 $10,000.00 $10,000 Bit wear(in) 1,5
Class 5 aggregate base TN 830 $14.00 $11,620 Shoulder depth 3
Lime rock aggregate shouldering TN 50 $22.00 $1,100 Existing gravel 14
12"RCP storm sewer LF 400 $40.00 $16,000
12"flared end section EA 1 $600.00 $600 ` p I,20 I t ram'
2'x 3'catch basin EA 4 $1,500.00 $6,000 4-1"
Class 3 riprap CY 25 $100.00 $2,500
Topsoil CY 10 $20.00 $200
Guard rail LF 350 $50.00 $17,500
Concrete curb and gutter LF 400 $15 00 $6,000
Drain tile LF 220 $5.00 $1,100
Retaining wall SF 1000 $20 00 $20,000
Pond excavation CY 500 $5.00 $2,500
Erosion control LS 1 $5,000 00 $5,000
Seeding AC 0.50 $2,000.00 $1,000
Subtotal $139,320
5%Contingency 6,966
Subtotal $146,286
30%Indirect Cost 43,890
Total $190,176 /47j 773
Bituminous Cost
Bituminous base course TN 160 $52.00 $8,320
Bituminous wear course TN 120 $55.00 $6,600
Tack Coat GAL 70 $3.00 _ $210
Subtotal $15,130
5%Contingency $757
Subtotal $15,867
30%Indirect Cost $4,770
Total Bitu $20,657 /(pr 3 7 1-
TOTAL CONSTRUCTION 205tii&QUINT AVENUE 5186,543
TOTAL 1970 STREET&QUINT AVENUE S2,12,513 /62,,3 I C-1- �J 3(eiJ 2
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Item Unit Qty Unit Price Total Cost
205TH STREET N-QUINNELL TO EAST END Length(ft) 1300
Subgrade preparation SY 4200 $1 00 $4,200 Width(ft) 22
Geotextile fabric SY 200 $2 00 $400 %redone 5%
Subgrade correction CY 100 $8 00 $800 CI 5 base(in) 2.0
Ditch excavation CY 430 $5 00 $2,150 Bit base(in) 1 5
Pond excavation CY 260 $5.00 $1,300
Clear and Grub LS 1 $5,000.00 $5,000 Bit wear(in) 1 5
Class 5 aggregate base TN 800 $14 00 $11,200 Shoulder depth 3
Lime rock aggregate shouldering TN 100 $22 00 $2,200 Existing gravel 14-19
15"RCP storm sewer LF 140 $40 00 $5,600
15"flared end section EA 3 $600.00 $1,800
Pond outlet structure LS 1 $4,200 00 $4,200 r l s. (O /L F
Class 3 riprap CY 25 $100 00 $2,500 /
Rip rap ditch checks EA 12 $100 00 $1,200 I
Turf reinforcement mat SY 930 $9 00 $8,370
Topsoil CY 200 $20 00 $4,000
Erosion Control LS 1 $5,000.00 $5,000
Seeding AC 1 $2,000.00 $2,000
Subtotal $61,920
5%Contingency 3,096
Subtotal $65,016
30%Indirect Cost 19,500
Total $84,516 '7(0,/SZ_. (^)b y. ie.e.�+�-;-
Bituminous Cost
Bituminous base course TN 290 $52.00 $15,080
Bituminous wear course TN 290 $55.00 $15,950
Tack Coat GAL 170 $3.00 $510
Subtotal $31,540
5%Contingency $1,577
Subtotal $33,117
30%Indirect Cost $9,940
Total Bitu $43,057 y o,.2 9 to
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QUINT AVENUE-QUINNELL TO 205th Length(ft) 420
Subgrade preparation SY 650 $1.00 $650 Width(ft) 14
Geotextile fabric SY 58 $2.00 $116 %redone 5%
Subgrade correction CY 290 $8 00 $2,320 CI 5 base(in) 2.0
Clear and Grub LS 1 $1,000 00 $1,000 Shoulder depth NA
Class 5 aggregate base TN 50 $14 00 $700 Existing gravel 11'-14'
Topsoil CY 20 $20.00 $400
Seeding AC 0.08 $2,000.00 $160
Subtotal $5,346
5%Contingency 267 It .50 ft,a A_F
Subtotal $5,613
30%Indirect Cost 1,680
Total $7.293
Bituminous Cost
Bituminous base course TN 60 $52.00 $3,120
Bituminous wear course TN 60 $55.00 $3,300
Tack Coat GAL 40 $3.00 $120
Subtotal $6,540
5%Contingency $327
Subtotal $6,867
30%Indirect Cost $2,060
Total Bitu $8,927
TOTAL CONSTRUCTION 205th&QUINT AVENUE $110,613
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RE: 2007 Paving Project, 205th Street and 197th Street
Dear Property Owner:
On November 21, 2006, when the former Town Board voted to order the 2007 Road
Improvement Project, 205th Street and 197th Street were excluded from the project pending
further study of the environmental impacts.
The City's consulting engineers, Bonestroo Rosene Anderlik &Associates,have completed their
study, which includes recommendations to minimize impacts from the project. The City Council
received the report at their January 16, 2007 meeting, and asked that this information be shared
with property owners affected by these two road segments. A copy of the report is enclosed.
The City Council has scheduled a special meeting for Wednesday, February 7, 2007 at 7:00
p.m. to meet with residents to discuss the report. The meeting will be held in the Board Room at
the Scandia Community Center, 14727 209t St. N., Scandia. At this meeting, the Council may
decide whether or not to include 205th Street and 197th Street in the 2007 paving project.
If the Council decides to proceed with the project at that time,plans for the entire paving project
are tentatively scheduled to be presented to the Council for approval at the February 20, 2007
City Council meeting. Bids would be taken in March for construction during the spring and
summer.
Please feel free to contact either of us if you have questions or need additional information.
Tom Peterson, P.E., City Engineer Anne Hurlburt, City Administrator
Bonestroo Rosene Anderlik, 651 604-4868 City of Scandia, 651 433-2274
tpeterson(a bonestroo.com a.hurlburt@ci.scandia.mn.us
205th and 197th Street
Environmental Study
• Project Overview
Planning and design has begun for Scandia's 2007 Street Improvements project. While
this project impacts streets located throughout the city,two streets(205th Street and 197th
Street)have been set aside for further environmental review. It should be noted that
"205th" includes Quint Avenue to the south and "197th" includes Quint Avenue to the
south. Concerns for both streets pertain to:
• Safety
• Drainage and stormwater treatment issues
• Impacts to a nearby trout stream and the St.Croix River
• Tree removal
• Impacts to the habitats of animals and plants in the area
Bonestroo, Rosene,Anderlik&Associates, Inc. (Bonestroo),the City of Scandia
Engineer,has studied the environmental concerns for both streets.We have carefully
considered all feedback and information from residents and associated agencies, as well
as previous studies pertaining to the area.The following is a brief analysis of the current
conditions,environmental concerns, and proposed improvements for each street,
followed by a summary of effects the street paving will have on the area.
• 205th Street
Existing Conditions
205th Street is a steep gravel road that ends with a circular
boat launch area adjacent to the St. Croix River.The road R
varies from 14'to 19' in width and extends 1,000'
between the railroad tracks and the river. To the south of
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designated trout
Runoff is eroding the gravel surface
3 stream. Currently a
y { and depositing sediment in the ravine.
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discharges to the creek.This runoff from the gravel
surface is negatively affecting the vegetation,
depositing sediment in the trout stream, and creating
Mature trees along the road will be erosion problems. Additional runoff flows down the
preserved
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street to the boat launch area, where it enters the St. Croix River through several eroded
channels that have formed over time.
Several significant white pines closely border the road, along with dense vegetation.
Residents stressed their desire to not have any trees removed, particularly the pines.
Environmental Concerns
Protecting the unique natural resources in this area of the Lower St. Croix National
Riverway is essential.The Watershed District, Department of Natural Resources, and
area residents have made this very clear since the first discussions regarding paving.
Our water resources engineer and natural resources expert have been on-site with the
City engineer to view the conditions and have reviewed existing information.Detailed
surveys have been done along the road.Attached to this report are three pages from the
Spring Creek Stewardship Plan referring to Gilbertson's Creek.
We are aware of the rare natural features that exist on either side of the road.The trout
stream is very sensitive to temperature increases that could occur with runoff from
bituminous pavement.The 100-year-old trees are important aesthetically and are habitat
for many birds and other wildlife. Wetlands are nearby and natural springs are located
west of the Canadian National Railroad tracks,providing water to several residents.
The proposed work will be very confined, staying mostly within the township right-of-
way and slightly wider than the existing gravel surfacing. The new pavement will tip to
the north,directing all runoff from the road away from Gilbertson's Creek.As a result,
runoff volumes to Gilbertson's Creek will decrease(see Figure 2) and there will be no
thermal impacts to the trout stream.
The new street layout,as shown on Figure 3,will incorporate curves to avoid large trees
and preserve the area's natural beauty. The new ditch on the road's north side will
incorporate rock ditch checks and turf reinforcement matting to reduce erosion and
promote infiltration of runoff into the ground. The proposed road work will not affect
the spring boxes west of the tracks.A small pond adjacent to the turnaround will
provide additional treatment of water before flowing to the river.
Proposed Improvements
205th Street will be paved from Quinnell Avenue to the boat and trailer turnaround
area.Quint Avenue will be paved for 400'between Quinnell and 205th. Paving will
eliminate the problem of dust,washboarding,and gravel erosion.205th Street will be
widened to 26 feet(22'wide pavement), similar to other Scandia streets.The 26-foot
width meets the DNR's minimum requirements for roads with boat launch access, and
provides for better parking along the road. See Figure 3 for proposed design details.
The new street alignment is designed to minimize tree removal.While all white pines in
the area will be preserved by curves in the street, removing some smaller,non-specimen
trees will be inevitable with the street expanding.Trees too close to the paved surface
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can damage the road. Expanding root systems can tear 4 T ; j.-s k'-
up the surface,and fallen branches or trees near to the X :...x` t
road can pose a safety hazard. "
Currently water runs off the street into Gilbertson's - - ,,_,:
Creek. The new street design will eliminate this problem ,i1-t - v -
by removing the culvert under the road and pitching the 'It +" - '" e.,-
pavement north to a ditch. Rock ditch checks will be
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placed every 50'within the ditch, slowing the runoff, Rock ditch checks slow water runoff
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and eventually forming shallow pools during storm reduce erosion and promote infiltration.
events.The pools will infiltrate some water into the
ground.A small pond or rainwater garden at the bottom of the hill will treat runoff
before it discharges through a structure to the St.Croix. A small easement will need to
be acquired for the ponding area.
• 197th Street
Existing Conditions
A steep embankment on 197th Street's east side, a rock ri .14
bluff on the west side, and a steep,narrow stretch near ,- ., 7: i y
the bottom of the hill combine to make the roadway _V.. -_ _,,
unsafe and difficult for oncoming cars to navigate.
Conditions on the gravel road worsen in the winter,
when ice forms on the road from natural springs flowing
from the limestone bluff.
Stormwater drains along the road's west side into a
shallow ditch near the bottom of the hill. Drain tile was Widening 197th Street will allow for
installed several years ago to improve drainage,but safe two-way traffic.
much of the tile has been torn up by a snow plow.
Overall, the narrow street width, steep slopes, and drainage issues present a safety
concern for Scandia residents, particularly those who use it as the primary access to their
homes along the St. Croix River.
Environmental and Safety Concerns
Residents along 197th Street have expressed their concerns by writing to the City and
attending public meetings.Our water resources engineer and City engineer have
inspected the road in great detail.Surveys were conducted and pictures taken to obtain
accurate information regarding the steep hill.This information was reviewed by traffic
engineers and construction specialists in our office.
Our survey shows the steepest part of the hill is 19 percent.By all transportation
standards, this is off the charts for Minnesota streets. If designing a new street, the
maximum grade is typically 8 percent. We are aware people are concerned that
pavement may be slicker than gravel. The street width is only 14' and there are concerns
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''City of Scandia—197"and 205"Street Improvements
about cars being able to pass one another. Cars have gone off the road and slid down the
steep embankment. Runoff and spring water from the limestone bluffs has created icy
conditions in the spring at the bottom of the hill.There is also concern about the
environmental impact of calcium chloride on plants and the river.
The proposed design will make the hill less steep which should reduce slipping.Tipping
the road toward the bluff will force vehicles away from the steep hill and a guard rail
will provide further protection. The wider road will allow two-way traffic. An improved
drainage system will reduce or eliminate ponding and ice flows.A stormwater pond
will properly treat the runoff so it will not be an environmental concern.
Proposed Improvements
As shown on Figure 4,the road will be widened to the west by about eight feet.The
widening will require rock excavation near the top of the hill, and the road grade will be
reduced to 15.5 percent by cutting at the top and filling at the bottom.A paved surface
will replace the existing gravel road. Installing a guard rail will improve safety along the
road's east edge. The road will be pitched toward the bluff side,rather than toward the
steep embankment to improve safety and also prevent drainage/erosion down the steep
side slope. Stormwater runoff from the road will be collected in curbing,storm sewer,
draintile and ditch and sent to a treatment pond before discharging into the St.Croix
River.Several trees will be removed since the road will shift west into the bluff. Also, a
short retaining wall will be necessary south of the bluff.
A Project Summary can be found on the following page.
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11 City of Scandia—197.and 205.Street Improvements
■ Project Summary
Improvements can be made to each street so they are safer for the driving public and
still be environmentally sensitive.
On 205th Street, the proposed improvements will:
• Eliminate erosion of road gravel into Gilbertson's Creek
• Promote infiltration of runoff with a ditch and rock check dams on the north side
• Treat storm water before it flows into the St. Croix River
• Avoid all the established white pine trees adjacent to the road
• Blend in to the landscape with aesthetically pleasing curves in the road
• Provide better parking because of slightly increased width
• Avoid thermal impacts to the trout stream since all road runoff drains away
• Not adversely affect rare plant or animal communities in the area
• Eliminate continuous maintenance issues with grading and adding gravel
On 197th Street, the proposed improvements will:
• Eliminate erosion of road gravel down the steep side slope
• Widen the road to allow safe travel for two-way traffic
• Flatten the grade of the hill to reduce slipping
• Modify the pitch of the road toward the west,keeping water and cars off the
steep,wooded slope
• Provide a safety guard rail along the top of the steep slope
• Improve drainage along the bluff with a new ditch/storm sewer system to
channel runoff to a pond
• Provide treatment of storm water before it flows to the St.Croix River
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}4 'bertson Creek begins along the Wisconsin-Central Rail where a ditch collects numerous seeps
ii ' charging along a ten-ace slope. From the Wisconsin-Central Rail, Gilbertson Creek flows a short
,,iistance though a black ash seepage swamp, crosses CR 53 and then begins its descent to the St. Croix
.,;/.4;:ltiver. The total watershed area contributing to Gilbertson Creek is 85 acres. The watershed land use
a •dudes a large agricultural field, some partly wooded residential areas and forest land.
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'Gilbertson Creek arises from one of the larger groundwater dependent wetland complexes in the study
area. Extending from the north boundary of William O'Brien State Park to just north of the junction of
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system includes records for several rare species including Louisiana waterthrush (Seiurus tnotacilla),
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'anax quingzwfolius). Gilbertson Creek contains a population of naturally reproducing brook trout
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0. „`1. The public access road (Log House Landing) to the St. Croix River is subject to significant scour
`: and erosion during storm events. The WMO should work with the NPS, DNR and Township to
�`-• stabilize eroded areas and lower peak flow rates into the Gilbertson's Creek Gorge.
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,y c . has been removed and converted to turf grass. Landowners should be informed of the importance
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classes".
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for total phosphorus (TP), total suspended solids (TSS) and total nitrogen (IN) concentrations and
I loading should be included.
. 6. Develop standards that limit the magnitude and duration ofslorniwater bounce in wetlands.
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January 11, 2007
Emily Resseger
Bonestroo& Associates
2335 West Highway 36
Roseville, MN 55113
Re: Request for Natural Heritage information for vicinity of proposed Scandia Township 2007 Street
Improvements,T32N R19W Sections 19& 30, Washington County
NHNRP Contact#: ERDB 20070456
Dear Ms. Resseger,
The Minnesota Natural Heritage database has been reviewed to determine if any rare plant or animal
species or other significant natural features are known to occur within an approximate one-mile radius of the
area indicated on the map enclosed with your information request. Based on this review,there are 62 known
occurrences of rare species or native plant communities in the area searched(for details,see enclosed database
printout and explanation of selected fields). However, standard construction procedures (e.g. erosion and
runoff control)should ensure that these features remain unaffected by the proposed activity.
The Natural Heritage database is maintained by the Natural Heritage and Nongame Research Program,
a unit within the Division of Ecological Services,Department of Natural Resources.It is continually updated as
new information becomes available,and is the most complete source of data on Minnesota's rare or otherwise
significant species, native plant communities, and other natural features. Its purpose is to foster better
understanding and protection of these features.
Because our information is not based on a comprehensive inventory, there may be rare or otherwise
significant natural features in the state that are not represented in the database. A county-by-county survey of
rare natural features is now underway,and has been completed for Washington County. Our information about
native plant communities is,therefore,quite thorough for that county. However,because survey work for rare
plants and animals is less exhaustive, and because there has not been an on-site survey of all areas of the
county,ecologically significant features for which we have no records may exist on the project area.
The enclosed results of the database search are provided in two formats: index and full record. To
control the release of locational information which might result in the damage or destruction of a rare element,
both printout formats are copyrighted. The index provides rare feature locations only to the nearest section,
and may be reprinted,unaltered,in an Environmental Assessment Worksheet,municipal natural resource plan,
or report compiled by your company for the project listed above. If you wish to reproduce the index for any
other purpose, please contact me to request written permission. The full-record printout includes more
detailed locational information,and is for your personal use only.If you wish to reprint the full-record
printouts for any purpose,please contact me to request written permission.
Please be aware that review by the Natural Heritage and Nongame Research Program focuses only on
rare natural features. It does not constitute review or approval by the Department of Natural Resources as a
whole. If you require further information on the environmental review process for other natural resource-
related issues,you may contact your Regional Environmental Assessment Ecologist,Wayne Barstad,at(651)
772-7940.
DNR Information: 651-296-6157 • 1-888-646-6367 • TTY: 651-296-5484 • 1-800-657-3929
if. Printed on Recycled Paper Containing a
An Equal Opportunity Employer
®r Minimum of 10% Post-Consumer Waste
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An invoice in the amount of$82.69 will be mailed to you under separate cover within several weeks of
the date of this letter. You arc being billed for map and database search and staff scientist review. Thank you
for consulting us on this matter, and for your interest in preserving Minnesota's rare natural resources.
Sincerely,
Sarah D. Wren
Endangered Species Environmental Review Coordinator
encl: Database search results
Rare Feature Database Print-Outs: An Explanation of Fields
Kathleen A. Wallace, 16797 205th St. N, Scandia, MN 55073
31 January 07
Scandia City Council Members RECEIVED
City of Scandia
14727 209th St. North FEB -6 2007
PO Box 128
Scandia, MN 55073
CITY OF SCANDIA
Dear Council Members:
I would like to provide comments in response to the City of Scandia's letter, sent
by Ms. Hurburt, City Administrator, and Mr. Peterson, City Engineer, on January
18, 2007; re the paving of 205th Street North.
November 21, 2006-January 22, 2007
I attended the Scandia Township Hearing on this issue on November 21, 2006
and provided testimony at the hearing. Additionally, all of the residents of 205th
Street North, Quint Avenue, and the watershed management organization either
provided testimony at the meeting, were in attendance at the meeting, or
provided written comments or petitions pertaining to the paving of these two
roads. A common-thread among all of our comments was that our primary
objective was to preserve the natural resources of the area—their ecological,
scenic, and recreational values—unique within Scandia, the county, state, and
the nation.
At the November hearing, our comments were respectfully given and respectfully
noted by the Township Board members. At the end of the meeting, it was our
understanding that Quint Avenue would be removed from the paving project and
that that 205th St. North paving project would be removed from the current
paving project pending up to three months of review of the ecology of the area to
consider, evaluate, study and address the national, statewide, regional and local
significance of the natural resources and ecological values of the St. Croix River
Valley—the river and its valley: as well as the statewide, regional, and local
significance of Gilbertson Trout Stream.
In furtherance of this effort, either at the November hearing or by written
correspondence, the assistance of local citizens, the DNR, the WMO, and others
was offered to assist in the ecological, hydrological and other resource
evaluations of the area; the potential impacts of the proposed paving project; and
the evaluation of paving or other alternatives.
January 23, 2007 to present
On or about January 23, 2007, my neighbors and I received a letter from Ann
Hurlburt, City Administrator, and Tom Peterson, City Engineer. The letter was
informative, however, the attached "205th and 197th Street Environmental Study"
was shocking.
On initial review of the "... Environmental Study" the words seemed to be
soothing and responsive to citizen's concerns. However, upon closer review it
was apparent that there were huge generalizations, little detail, few references,
no topography of or elevations for the area, erroneous mapping of the trout
stream's branches, other omissions, and little understanding of the areas natural
resources, much less their function or value.
Absent graphics, the entire environmental study of 205th Street, Gilbertson's
Creek, St. Croix springs and seepage fens, and the St. Croix River for this project
is less than one page long, My response to this "study" is longer than the "study
itself. For this, I apologize, however, the list of its omissions, errors and
misunderstandings is greater than the "study" itself.
My specific concerns with the "Study's" generalizations, euphuisms, vague—and
sometimes misleading use of adjectives and adverbs are noted below.
1. p. 1, paragraph 2. "Bonestroo... has studied the environmental
concerns.... We have carefully considered all feedback and information from
residents and associated agencies, as well as previous studies ..."
In mid January, I talked with the engineer after the current proposal was
formulated. At that time, he had contacted no residents. However, some
contacted him when he was doing field surveys of the area. When I spoke with
him, he was unaware of the WMO's offer of assistance and he had not contacted
them (their assistance was offered in written form to the township and in public
testimony by the president of the WMO), additionally, he had not contacted the
DNR Regional Trout Stream specialist (noted in public testimony), the DNR
Regional Ecologists (whose mappings of the rare and significant features of the
township were attached to a November hearing comment letter), the DNR
Regional St. Croix River Hydrologist, nor the ecologists or executives of the
NPS's National St. Croix Riverway. In conversation, the engineer was unfamiliar
with the two major ecological and engineering studies of the area done by the
WMO's engineering firm of Emmons and Olivier—or the letters to the township
and testimony provided at the hearing referencing these studies (approx. 2
months earlier). Additionally, field staff in the area did not know what White
Pines were, much less their significance or their ecological communities needs.
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2. p. 1, paragraph 3. "The road varies from 14' to 19' in width..." Yes, it
does, however it is only at 19' at the RR and road crossings and the entrance to
the parking area for the landing. The road is approx. 14' wide, otherwise.
3. p. 2, paragraph 2. "Several white pines closely border the road....
Residents stressed their desire to not have these trees removed."
In discussion with the "residents" —they clearly explained that they
identified these trees as white pines (ranging in age from 50-150 years) to the
consultant (who was unfamiliar with this species) and indicated that they were
part of the Mixed Coniferous-Deciduous Forest of the riverway area — and local
landmark. No suggestion was made that only the white pines should be
protected. The white pines and their fellow species exist as part of a larger
community. This community needs to be understood and ecologically protected
in it's totality.
The noted "residents," have, in discussion, indicated that they were trying
to familiarize the consultant with some of the most significant features of the
riverway ecosystem and not to note that large white pines should be protected as
an exclusive resource.
4. p. 2, paragraph 3. "Our water resources engineer and natural resources
experts have been on-site with the City Engineer...."
As neighbors, we are unaware of any water resource engineers or natural
resource experts being on-site with the City Engineer. (Please note, we are
aware that DNR personnel which deal with funding of water access roads have
been on-site with the engineer, however, this staff are not ecosystem experts.)
5. p. 2, paragraph 3. "Detailed surveys have been done along the road.
Attached to this report are three pages from the Spring Creek Stewardship Plan
referring to Gilbertson's Creek."
There should be no implication or inference that recent ecological surveys
or studies have been done along the road. (If they have been, they have not
been offered in support of this "Study.") The "...three pages from the Spring
Creek Stewardship Plan" noted above, were attached to written and public
testimony in November. If there has been further analysis of past studies or
additional new ones of the area's hydrology, ecology, or other natural resources
the new information or analysis should be made available to the public.
6. p. 2, paragraph 4. "We are aware of the rare natural features that exist on
either side of the road.... The 100-year-old trees are important aesthetically and
are habitat for many birds and other wildlife. Wetlands are nearby and natural
springs are located west of the... Railroad tracks, providing water to several
residents."
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This study conveys no new "awareness" by the consultants which was not
presented by residents in November 2006, or earlier. In fact, the study does not
reflect an understanding or further exploration of the data that was presented at
the November hearing. At that time:
(a) A DNR map of"Scandia Rare and Natural Features" was
presented. There is no mention in this "Study" of these rare natural features or
the communities which sustain them.
(b) A map of "Regionally Significant Terrestrial and Wetland
Ecological Areas" was presented at the hearing and in written testimony. This
map clearly indicates that very significant resources—both ecologically and
fiscally—exist within the City of Scandia. The value of these resources is not
addressed in this "Study."
(c) A map of"Quinell Avenue Area Nature Features" (which
includes 205th St. N. and Quint Avenue) was presented in public testimony,
however, no investigation or evaluation of these features or resources is noted in
the study.
(d) The only detailed information attached to this "study"—"Spring
Creek : Gilbertson's Creek 6U" was presented (with copies) at the November
hearing and this "study" reflects no investigation or evaluation of this data.
The "Study's" statement that: "...100-year old trees are important
aesthetically and are habitat for many birds and wildlife.... is "fluff." These trees
have far more than aesthetic value. And I would challenge the consultants to
name the species of wildlife for which they provide habitat.
And the "Study's" last environmental statement: "Wetlands are nearby
and natural springs are located west of the Canadian National Railroad...
providing water to several residents."—who does not know that there are
wetlands and springs at the base of the St. Croix river valley bluffs? (Is this
supposed to be new news?) As for the springs being a source of"water to
several residents." This is old news, most of these spring-water systems were
compromised in the past 20-years.
However, the springs at the base of the St. Croix bluffs have major
value to the watershed and the St. Croix River. This is noted in Mr. Shaver's
letter to the township dated November 18, 2006. (Mr. Shaver is the President of
the Marine on St. Croix Watershed Management Organization, which includes
the "Study" area). In his letter, Mr. Shaver states that: "Since 2000, much or our
organization's work has involved the inventory of our area's natural resources.
We found that some of the most pristine and unique examples are the seepages
and springs that feed the St. Croix River. This led to our St. Croix Spring Creek
Study, an examination of the streams feeding the St. Croix River of which
Gilbertson's Creek is one." Where in this "Study" is this research referenced or
evaluated?
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In the interest of brevity, I will not try to respond to each statement of the
"study's" three paragraphs of Proposed Improvements to 205th St. but rather try
to respond to their impacts, environmental concerns, and other citizen concerns.
1. Quint Avenue south of 205th is proposed for paving. It was residents'
understanding that Quint Avenue was removed from the current paving plan at
the November hearing. The "Study" notes that paving will "eliminate problems of
dust, washboarding, and gravel erosion." These alleged problems have never
been observed or noted by residents. Please explain why the paving of this
portion of Quint Avenue is being re-included, at this time. (Additionally, please
note that the paving of Quint Ave., as noted in this "Study," without control of
runoff will contribute thermally and chemically polluted waters to two of the major
branches of Gilbertson's Creek and the St. Croix River.)
2. The "Study" rather glibly notes that 205th St. will be widened from 14" to
26' feet and further implies that this is a DNR standard. The later is incorrect.
The 26' standard is for DNR built, recognized or funded water accesses. There
is no standard for local water accesses.
Additionally, the "Study" within its text, under-represents the roads true
width. Currently most of the road is approx. 14' wide. Worse—the road
expansion to 22 or 26' is under-represented. It would be 22' of paving, 4' of
gravel shoulders, and a 10' wide ditch on the north side. This would be going
from an existing corridor of 14' to one of 36'. And this does not include the
impact of the proposed project on abutting trees, habitat, and creek slopes which
would be lost through construction damage.
3. The "Study" notes that the proposed increase in road width would provide
for "better parking along the road." Parking along the current road has never
been encouraged or denied. As residents we have accepted that there will be
parking along the road during the fishing opener and for one or two other prime
use weekends. As residents, we have assumed the responsibility of helping
access users during these times and cleaning up the beer cans and debris
afterwards. To the best of our understanding, there has been no proposal in the
Scandia Master Plan, in the paving plan, or in actions of the Township Board or
new City Council which recommended increased parking on this road. If there
has been, we as residents, would like to know about it and discuss it with the
Council. If the City is thinking about expanding the use of the landing and
encourage road parking we would like to abdicate our current "neighborly"
response to providing phone, clean-up, emergency, shelter, and towing services
to the landing users and request that the City provide these services.
4. The "Study" in its "Proposed Street Design" implies that not only the
roadway will be expanded to encourage road parking, but that the landing
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parking area will be expanded. (We measured the existing parking and the
proposed parking—and there would be a considerable expansion; in fact one that
would go over the northeast bank!) If this is done, as noted above, the city will
need to provide additional services for users.
5. More importantly, if the landing and road parking are expanded, it will be
inconsistent with the access' launch area's ability to handle watercraft. Currently,
the launch ramp is a steep north to south slope with a 90 degree turn to the east
at the southern end. And then the launch is into very shallow waters. For the
past few years, it has been difficult to launch and more difficult to take out
anything trailer-ed much larger than a john-boat. (As a prior owner of a 14' river
boat, 2 out of 3 years, I could not remove the boat from the Log-House Landing
but had to use the State Park access instead.) Something is out of synch here:
we are considering a road for cars and trailers which can not be handled by
access parking, and access parking for boats that can not be launched and
retrieved, and if they are launched—the water is so shallow that the trailered
boats can only traverse approx. 2-3 mi. of the river. What is wrong with this
picture?
6. The "Proposed Improvements" note that the road would be curved to
avoid major trees. However, with the exception of two small areas on the east
end of the road, there is no land to move the road to! On the north side of the
existing road there are medium to giant trees, on the south side there are
medium to large trees and steep slopes down to the trout stream. The
"Proposed Street Design" is without elevations and without designation of stream
tributaries and creek springs. While in concept one can move the road away
from one sensitive area, it will just take out another one on the other side. Who
decides on which resources are to be lost? Additionally, the proposal says that
"all white pines in the area will be preserved." This is either a joke or ignorance.
There is no-way a 36' roadway can be put in this corridor without taking out white
pines—white pines grow on both sides of the current road (as well as other
significant species) and there is not 36' between them in most areas.
Additionally, the Proposal does not allow for construction buffers around
significant trees or habitats, nor does it recognize a construction buffer from the
creeks bluffs. Without construction buffer areas, adjacent trees and bluffs will be
lost or incur significant damage.
7. Condemnation? Only in the last sentence of the 205th St. Proposal is
there any mention of the fact that this proposal will require an easement or
condemnation of an approximately 70x70x120' portion of the privately-owned,
historic log-house landing property. This property would be taken for a storm
water retention pond. If this easement or condemnation were to proceed, it would
take out all of the past and current landowners' natural screening on their
property to shelter them from the visual and use impacts of the landing parking
area. My neighbors and I consider ourselves to be reasonable people, however,
it seems grossly unreasonable that the first time that the landowners, our
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neighbors, hear that their land may be taken by the city is in a concept proposal
by a consultant; a proposal which did not originate from the City Council, yet one
that may be approved within 4 weeks of concept, with no discussion with the
landowners. Once again, what is wrong with this picture?
Summary Comments
The "Environmental Study" is cursorary and inadequate.
The "Proposed Street Design" contains such limited study, data or plan details
that it in reality it is nothing more than a concept plan. Additionally the proposal
contains no engineering, hydrologic, or soils data. This would be a very
expensive road to build. Is the City ready to proceed with adopting this plan and
proceeding to bids without an understanding of this essential data; without
knowing what the needed capacity of the holding ponds would be; without
knowing where the bedrock is or what the costs to dig a ditch and pond through
bedrock might be?
I and many of neighbors encourage the City Council not to adopt this plan;
instead, to consider other design alternatives and obtain the necessary
environmental, engineering, and cost data to properly evaluate the feasibility of
any and all road improvements to 205th Street North.
Thank you for your consideration of this matter.
Sincerely,
Kathleen A. Wallace
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C: Ann Hurburt, City Administrator
Tom Peterson, City Engineer
Jim Shaver, President, Marine on St. Croix Watershed Management
Organization
Marcey Westrick, Emmons and Olivier engineering firm
Kate Hanson, Asst. Director, St. Croix National Riverway, NPS
Adjacent landowners
Hannah Tetrault, DNR, Regional Ecologist
Dirk Peterson, DNR, Regional Fisheries Manager
Molly Shodeen, DNR, Area Hydrologist
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IN REPLY REFER TO:
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February 6, 2007
CITY OF SCANDIA
L2431(SACN)
Ann Hurlburt
Administrator
Town of New Scandia
14727 209th Street North
Scandia, Minnesota 55073
Dear Ms. Hurlburt:
We appreciate the recent contact from Tom Peterson at Bonestroo regarding possible paving of
the road to Log House Landing, on the St. Croix National Scenic Riverway. In the last week, we
have been contacted by several Scandia residents who have concerns about such a project.
The National Park Service does not have jurisdiction over the road or landing. However, we do
hold scenic easements on property immediately to the north and the south of the road and
landing. In addition, National Park Service approval is needed for projects that would cause
disturbance below the high water mark. We are primarily concerned with protecting water
quality, vegetation and scenic values.
From information we have received, it seems the factor driving this project is a policy to pave all
roads. We urge the city to give consideration to other factors as well, such as what type of long-
term use is envisioned for the landing, the level of development appropriate for the setting, and
the ecological significance of the adjacent Gilbert Creek property. Currently, the landing is used
primarily by area residents. Use may well increase if access is improved significantly by
widening and paving the road (and possibly the parking area). This would also be true if there is
additional parking or the launch is improved.
We realize that the drawings forwarded to us are conceptual, not detailed construction plans, and
that some features of the project remain uncertain, such as parking area or launch improvements.
If the project moves forward, we hope it will be done in a manner that causes the least possible
disturbance of soils and vegetation, runoff and erosion. We would like to review more detailed
plans if they are developed.
The National Park Service also holds scenic easements on properties along 197th Street, where
paving is proposed. Our concerns for that project would be the same as those articulated above.
We would appreciate the opportunity to review the 197th Street plans.
Thank you for your consideration of these thoughts.
Sincerely,
Thomas A. Bradley
Superintendent
City of Scandia
2007 Street Improvements
Assessment Calculations
February 7, 2007
Prelim. Report Revised Costs
Oct. 2006 Omit 205th & 197th
1 Scandia -Total Project $1,856,906 $1,503,971
2 Chisago -Total Project $364,234 $364,234
3 Overall Total Project $2,221,140 $1,868,205
4 Scandia -Total Bituminous $935,347 $825,786
5 Chisago -Total Bituminous $218,565 $218,565
6 Overall Total Bituminous $1,153,912 $1,044,351
7 Assessable Units 160 133.5
8 Assessment#4/#7 $5,846 $6,186
Collector Street: #8 x 0.25 $1,462 $1,547
Non-Collector Street: #8 x 0.75 $4,385 $4,640
'Po lnicyo;
I make a motion to delete part of 205th Street from the 2007 Road Project, but include
205th Street from Quinnell to approximately 2 feet from Kathleen Wallace's driveway.
Then vacate 205th Street that goes over the railroad track to the bottom that meets Quint
Avenue. The city should not upgrade the hill that goes to Log House Landing as that is
very scenic and I believe that the hill should be preserved as that is the history of the city
the beginning of our community. The other of part of the motion as follows: Include
197th Street in the Road Project from Highway 95 to the top of the hill of 197th Street and
delete the hill from the 2007 Road Project and I believe that hill should be preserved as
that is the history of the city the beginning of our community. Neither of these two
streets are heavily used and the cost for these two hills to be reconstructed are cost
prohibited and the city would be destroying the history of our community.
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