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5. Infomation submitted by Altmann 09 07 16Neil Soltis From: Mark Altmann <MAltmann@cardiacscience.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:39 AM To: n.soltis@ci.scandia.mn.us Cc: Mayor Randall Simonson; saltmann12@gmail.com; Altmann, Susan M.; Bob Lushanko Subject: FW: Follow up from our meeting this morning Attachments: Grant Townshio ORDINANCE NO 57.docx; May_Twp_Town_Code_April_2015.pdf, Stillwater Township Ordinance_100.pdf, WSCO report.pdf; Altmann Property and shoot area 9-7-2016.pdf Importance: High Hi Neil, Unfortunately I will not be able to attend tonight's council meeting. My wife is doing what she can to attend but may not make it to the meeting do to work obligations. My wife and I are very happy to see the Council take a look at this important safety issue for our community. As stated in the email below, we are not suggesting a ban on shooting guns in Scandia. We just want to make the situation safer for those who live in the community. I have attached several documents to this email. The first three documents are shooting ordinances in nearby towns. They all seem very reasonable and are focused on making the situation safer for community members. The forth document is the Sheriff's report from one of our several "run ins" with our neighbor's reckless shooting activities. It clearly shows they were drinking. The last document is an aerial picture of our property and the troubling shooting area. The forth document is the Sheriff's report from one of our encounters with our neighbors. It is extremely troubling their we shooting guns and drinking less than 200 feet from our house. There should be no room for this type of behavior in Scandia. The Sheriff's department told me there was nothing they could do. They recommended working with the City Council to develop an ordinance to make the situation safer for all citizens. My wife and I ask your consideration in developing and implementing a ordinance which: 1. Restricts shooting within 500 feet of occupied or unoccupied dwellings unless shooter has written permission for building owners. 2. Restricts shooting within 500 feet of livestock areas. 3. Restricts shooting to maximum of 1 hour in a 24 hour period. 4. Restricts alcohol consumption while shooting in permissible areas. Alcohol should not be consumed while shooting in the city limits. No one can argue guns and alcohol are a good mix! We need the City Council's help in making our situation safer. While our neighbors are shooting, it is not safe for us to be in our yard or sports court. We have many nieces and nephews who use our sports court and are in danger when our neighbors engage in their reckless shooting activities! I have copied the Mayor, my wife and Bob Lushanko on this email. I copied Bob as you had copied him on your email notifying us of the Council meeting agenda. I believe he will be at the meeting tonight. We are asking for your assistance in forwarding this information to the Council Members for their consideration. Please contact me if you have any questions. Best regards, Mark A. Altmann VP, Operations and Services Cardiac Science Corporation • 500 Burdick Pkwy, Deerfield, WI 53531 Office: 608.764.7007 • Cell: 612.860.7825 www.cardiacscience.com From: Mark Altmann Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 8:17 PM To: 'r.simonson@ci.scandia.mn.us'; 'n.soltis@ci.scandia.mn.us' Subject: Follow up from our meeting this morning Dear Mayor and Administrator, Thank you for taking the time to meet with me this morning. I appreciate having the opportunity to discuss my concern over the safety on my family and neighbors. Background — My wife and I purchased a home at 13870 202nd St. N, 2.5 years ago. We moved here from Marine. We have lived in this area for many years. We purchased our dream home in the country! We have been very happy living here. Great town, great neighbors and a peaceful town. Last summer our neighbors to the north sold their home and new neighbors moved into the property. I first met our neighbors on a Saturday morning last summer. I went to speak with them when we heard gun fire behind our house. 4 males (one is the son of the owner) set up a make shift shooting range directly behind our house. No more than 300 feet from our back door and 200 feet from our sports court. After 90 minutes or so of continuous shooting, I approached them to express my concern regarding the safety of the situation as it was so close to my home. They continued shooting for the next 4 hours. I decided to speak with them again. This time the home owner and wife joined the shooting. As I walked over I saw them drinking beer while they were shooting. It was very intimidating speaking to them when they had loaded weapons and consuming alcohol. During the shooting period of several hours, hundreds of rounds were fired. Since the first encounter, there have been several more long periods of gun firm behind our house. As few weeks ago we finally decided to called the Sherriff after a few hours of gunfire. By the time the Sheriff arrived, the gun fire had stopped. Again, hundreds of rounds were fired. This time they were shooting in a easterly direction. In the general direction of our field being worked by a local farmer. This seemed very unsafe. The last encounter was Friday June 10t". The gun shooting started around 1700. About an hour after the shooting started, my wife called the Sheriff. The Sheriff responded and talked with our neighbors. The Deputy told me they were drinking beer will shooting. The Deputy stated she did not think they were intoxicated but were drinking never the less. Once the Deputy left, the gunfire started again and lasted until around 2100. 1 talked with the duty Sargent, Jim Gribbles. He advised me there was really nothing they could do about the shooting. He told me of a similar situation which the County Attorney would not press charges. He said the best thing to do was to talk with the Scandia City officials. I spoke to the County Attorney's assistant today. I need to get a copy of the police report and follow up later this week. My Request — My wife and I are very concerned about the situation. We believe this is a safety issue. When our neighbors are shooting less than 200 feet from our backyard, we cannot enjoy being in our backyard. As a longtime member of the NRA, I am not an anti -gun person. This being said, there is a time and place for shooting. There is never a time and place for shooting and drinking alcohol 200 to 300 feet behind your neighbor's house for hours at a time. I have done some research regarding firearms regulations. I understand the City of Scandia does not have specific firearms shooting regulations. I found several other cities and townships in Washington County have regulations. Attached are May Township, Stillwater Township and Grant Township examples. They all have rules regarding shooting within 500 ft. of buildings. I would like the City Council to consider drafting and implementing some similar regulations. I would also like to see some reference to prolonged shooting and consumption of alcohol while shooting. Wouldn't be reasonable to restrict shooting to a period of time say 60 minutes? Prolonged shooting practice really needs to be done at a practice range. Regarding alcohol and shooting, the NRA rules of safety mention gun enthusiasts should not consume alcohol will shooting. https://www. n rafa m i Iy. org/a rti cles/2015/10/6/8-gu n-safety-ru I es -yo u -m ay -not -have -heard -of/ In closing, we really need your help protecting the safety of my family. When our neighbors are shooting we cannot enjoy our backyard as it is extremely loud and potentially unsafe. I am available anytime to speak with either of you can be reached at the number listed below. Best regards, Mark Altmann 13870202 n1 St. N Scandia, MN 55047 612.860.7825 CJGIUPRWCSO WASHINGTON COUNTY SHMIFF' S OFFICE DATE 6/14/16 TIME 9:05.08 INITIAL COMPI JLMT REPORT 116020780 DATE/TIME REPORTED- 6/10/16 18;22:56 DISPATCHER: TALUNDM DATE/TIME STAMP: 6/10/16 18:24:37 ENTERED BY: TALUNDM DATE/TIME OCCURRXD: 6/10/16 18:22.56 _ 6/10/16 18:22:56 LOCATION OF INCIDENT: 13870 202ND ST N GRID: SCANDIA, MN 55073 XXcIDENT RECEivED BY; TELEPHONE OFFICERS ASSIGN=: "76 LUNDMARK 89 URBANIAK 100 WCSO 120 MARS 192 FRY NAMES ,ASSOCIATED SUSAN MARIE ALTMANN WITH THIS INCIDXNT: 13870 202ND ST N SCANDIA, MN 550'73 PHONE:(H) (W) SEK:F DOB: ASSOCZATION:COMPLAINANT NEIGHBOR COMPLAINT **RSTK 21** ,NEIGHBORS BEHIND COMP ON OLINDA, TR HAVE A GUN RANGE SET UP IN �3ACKYARD/COMP CONCERNED THEY ARE SHOOTING GUNS CLOSE TO NOME CB 651 433 3932 MARK ALBERT ALTMANN 13870 202ND ST N SCANDIA, MN 55073 PHONE;(H) 612/860-7825 (W) SE;M DOB; 7/08/1963 ,ASSOCIATION:OTHER **RSTK 21 MARK ALTMANN 612 860 7825** MARK ANTCZAK 20290 OLINDA TR N SCANDIA, 00000 PHONE: (H) (W) SEK: DOB: ASSOCIATION:OTHER OFFICER COMMS NTS ; MET W/S.ALTMANN WHO BROUGHT ME ONTO HER ENCLOSED PATIO 192 6/10/16 AND I COULD] HEAR SEVERAL GUR SHOTS, UNABLE TO SEE WHERE 192 6/10/16 IT WAS COMING FROM FROM THE DECK. LOCATED ADDRESS OF 192 6/10/15 THE COMPLAINT AND MET WITH THE HOMEOWNER ANTCZAK. HE WALKED 192 6/10/16 ME TO THE AREA ON THEIR 30 ACRES WHERE HIS SON AND FRIENDS 192 6/10/16 WERE TARGET SHOOTING. THE AREA I5 NEAR ALTMANN°S HOWEVER THE 192 6/10/16 PARTIES WERE NOT SHOOTING TOWARDS ALTMANN'S PROPERTY OR 192 6/10/16 NOME. THE PARTIES WERE SCOOTING SHOTGUNS. I DID SEE A FEW 192 6/10/16 EMPTY BEER CONTAINERS, BUT NOONE APPEARED INTOXICATED. 192 6/10/16 IT DID NOT APPEAR ANTCZAR WAS IN VIOLATION SINCE SCANDIA 192 6/10/16 /G # 60G99tSG99:01 : o� 61:8M -9G-90 CJGI UPRWCSO WASHINGTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE DATE 6/14/16 TIME 9 : 05 : (38 INITIAL COMPLAINT RBpORT 116020780 DATE/TIME REPORTED: 6/10/16 DATE/TIME STAMP: 1.8:22:55 D I S PATCHER : TALUNDm 6/10/16 18:24:37 ENTERED BY! TALUNDM DOES NOT HAVE A CITY ORD 'V'YOLATION ON FIREARMS AND IT DID NOT APPEAR 192 6/10/16 Td BE A OF ANY ,STATE STATUTE I COULD FIND. SGT 192 6/10/16 GRISBLE 153 WAS NOTIFIED AND ,ALSO SPOKE TO ALTMANN. 1.92 6/10/16 ALSO VERIFIED WITH DEPUTY YETTER THERE IS NO SC ORD. 192 6/10/16 ICR ONLY? Y / # 601.�9tiBG�9 al ;uao��; FI. B0 9�-9G-90 a n°a,y _ N ; � m z C l^ � N _ .j � p b � � N N Y 0 N � � z A d H ate'.] �z`" a c ti a z 3