08.b Draft minutes 03-04-2025 Planning Commission
March 4, 2025
The Scandia Planning Commission held their regular monthly meeting on the above date. The
meeting was conducted in-person and virtually over an electronic platform. All participants who
joined the meeting remotely could hear each other and contribute to discussions.
Chair Travis Loeffler called the meeting to order at 7:07 p.m. The following were in attendance:
Commissioners Mary Cullen, Laszlo Fodor, Jan Hogle, Perry Rynders and Chair Travis Loeffler.
Staff present: City Planner TJ Hofer and City Clerk Brenda Eklund.
PUBLIC FORUM
There were no public comments.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA, MINUTES
Rynders, seconded by Hogle, moved to approve the agenda as presented. The motion
carried unanimously.
Hogle, seconded by Fodor, moved to approve the February 4, 2025 minutes as presented.
The motion carried unanimously.
CONTINUED FROM DECEMBER 3, 2024: VARIANCE FOR ENCROACHMENT OF
IMPERVIOUS SURFACE (DRIVEWAY) WITHIN THE SETBACK FROM THE
ORDINARY HIGH-WATER LEVEL OF A RECREATIONAL DEVELOPMENT LAKE
AT 19489 MANNING TRAIL NORTH. APPLICANT PAUL BRUGGEMAN
Planner Hofer provided a summary of Paul Bruggeman’s variance request, which was
recommended for approval by the Planning Commission on December 3, 2024. The City Council
heard the recommendation at their meeting on December 17, 2024 and discussed the concerns
the applicant had regarding the staff conditions of approval. Mr. Bruggeman indicated that he
would be interested in further discussing the conditions with the Planning Commission, and
waived his rights to conclude a review within the statutory limit of 120 days. The City Council
motioned to recommend the application back to the Planning Commission.
The applicant is requesting approval of an after-the-fact variance for impervious surface
(driveway) within the lake setback and from a wetland which serves an approved Accessory
Dwelling Unit at 19489 Manning Trail North. Planner Hofer explained that staff found that
practical difficulties were met and recommended approval with conditions to restore extensive
vegetative clearing that occurred on the site.
In January, staff met with Mr. Bruggeman at his property and reviewed the site history using
historical aerials, surveys, and photographs from the Watershed District. Planner Hofer said he
established an area where intensive vegetative clearing was done to build a retaining wall on the
southwest area of the property, prior to any permits being issued which would have allowed the
clearing. Hofer sent a letter sent to the applicant explaining the area cleared in shore and bluff
impact zones is prohibited by the shoreland ordinance standards which were in place in 2023.
The shoreland ordinance was most recently updated in March 2024.
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Mr. Bruggeman had made known that he would be interested in multiple view corridors to allow
a view to the lake from the primary residence, because currently only the ADU has a lake view;
the ordinance allows for one single view corridor per lot. Hofer said he investigated the potential
to amend the shoreland ordinance for multiple view corridors, but the DNR indicated they would
not be supportive of multiple view corridors. Hofer explained that his staff report has conditions
of approval as recommended to the City Council last December, plus the addition of two more
for remedial actions to address the vegetative clearing.
Paul Bruggeman addressed the Commissioners and asked Planner Hofer to read shoreland
ordinance section 8.23 which was in effect when he built his house. This language was in
Attachment 1 of the staff report, and allows limited clearing near the lake to provide a view to
the water from the principal dwelling, provided the screening of structures as viewed from the
water is not substantially reduced. Bruggeman stated that the principal dwelling on the property
does not have a view to the lake, and he is trying to establish a view from their house as allowed
by the ordinance. Bruggeman said he has 430 feet of lakeshore, and the clearing that Hofer
identified is 1.6% of the area. Bruggeman said he has no problem with conditions #1 through# 3,
but is opposed to the restoration conditions #5a and #5b, to establish plantings along the
retaining wall and to plant trees to create screening from the lake. Bruggeman said he has done
substantial plantings on the three tiers of the retaining wall this past fall, and has saved 9 to 12
trees to build the ponds for water runoff control. Bruggeman said he worked with the city
engineer to design the tiered retaining walls, with the removal of two trees that were diseased.
Bruggman said he and staff have differing definitions of intensive clearing. Bruggeman said he is
working with the Watershed in great detail and has agreed to their conditions, having planted 330
plugs along the lake and 9 shrubs to satisfy the Watershed conditions. Bruggeman said he is not
going to alter the retaining wall plantings to meet the staff conditions, as the retaining walls are
not visible from the lake. Bruggeman described the catch basins and French drain he installed on
the property to control water runoff, a huge benefit to the lake. Bruggeman concluded by saying
his actions have helped this site, and he is not getting credit for it. In his plan for a lake view for
the principal structure, all of the trees to be removed are dead, none are living.
Commissioner Hogle asked Planner Hofer to read the definition of intensive clearing:
Intensive vegetation clearing. The complete removal of trees or shrubs in a contiguous patch,
strip, row, or block.
Commissioner Rynders said he was not on the site visit but is familiar with the property. Rynders
said he is empathetic to the positive things you’ve done, but disappointed in the uncooperative
approach. Rynders said he reluctantly approved the variance for the driveway in December, and
doesn’t have issues with the conditions staff has added in the resolution for approval.
Chair Loeffler said he was absent from the December meeting, but was part of the initial
variance request in 2021. Loeffler said the photos in the staff report are concerning, showing
erosion and trees removed. Loeffler said they are talking about a path to the lake that a boater
can see through -- how big is the opening? Bruggeman said the view in front of the ADU is 45’,
and only in front of the ADU. Addressing the photos of removed trees, Bruggeman said these
oaks had a fungus and were dying, as well in a place where the house was to be put.
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Chair Loeffler clarified that Bruggeman can follow the ordinance that was in place at the time of
the application. Planner Hofer explained that anything done prior to the shoreland ordinance
change in March 2024 can be done subject to the past ordinance. To establish a view corridor
now, the applicant needs to follow the existing ordinance.
Bruggeman said he was approved for a 50’ view, and produced an email sent from former staff
on 2/17/2022 allowing for clearing along the lakeshore to establish a view to the water from the
principal structure. The email document was entered into the record.
Chair Loeffler said what was initially approved should be allowed at this time
Planner Hofer said the original plans did not show a retaining wall, nor any changes in grade. A
survey from June 2022 was the first survey to show a retaining wall, with no grading changes
shown. A survey from August 2023 shows the appearance of additional tiered walls with
changes to grade.
Planner Hofer said the applicant needs to make a future request for an additional view corridor as
he indicated at the December Council meeting; however, the DNR will not allow for this.
Conditions of approval in the staff report were reviewed. Planner Hofer recommended to strike
the last sentence of Condition #4, as it is already in Condition #5. As well, the retaining wall has
been installed and erosion stabilized. Language for Condition #5 are Watershed and Washington
Conservation District guidelines for corrective actions.
Chair Loeffler said they can assume the trees were removed for good reasons, and staff is
recommending replacement as a solution. Loeffler said he is not concerned with screening the
structures and wall from the lake as they are all are reasonable to have on the property. Loeffler
said it is reasonable to add a condition to replace the healthy trees that were removed, and allow
them to be planted anywhere. If evidence exists that all the trees were removed appropriately,
then remove the condition.
Chair Loeffler said he would like the question “What was originally proposed for the house
regarding a lake view?” be addressed.
Planner Hofer said that adding language to Condition #5b – only require restoration for healthy
trees that were removed – is not that simple. The ordinance standards need to be referenced.
Planner Hofer stated that the Commissioners can recommend approval with conditions in the
staff report, as amended by striking the last sentence in Condition #4 and rewording Condition
#5b to reflect the statement by Chair Loeffler to replace healthy trees that were removed. Hofer
clarified that if the Watershed and/or WCD can verify that the existing plantings on the top of the
retaining wall are deep-rooted and herbaceous, the city will recognize that Condition #5.a has
been met.
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Rynders, seconded by Hogle, to recommend approval of the Variance based on staff
recommendation as stated.
Chair Loeffler said he would like to see conditions from the original variance approval for the
property, and to use that to establish a view to the lake. If the conditions did not address
screening, that shouldn’t be required; enforce what the code intended. What was in the ordinance
at the time of original approval should be allowed, and based on following the original plan.
Motion carried 5-0 by roll call vote.
The recommendation of approval will be presented to the City Council at their meeting on March
18, 2025.
CONTINUED FROM FEBRUARY 4, 2025: AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF
SCANDIA UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE (UDC) CHAPTER 153.400.020
SUBDIVISION STANDARDS, REGARDING DESIGN STANDARDS FOR MAJOR
SUBDIVISION
Planner Hofer reviewed the draft ordinance discussed at the February 4, 2025 meeting, to amend
a section of the Unified Development Code to address concerns around higher density
development. The language will add standards for major subdivisions for streets, wastewater
treatment, stormwater management and landscaping. At the last meeting, the Commission
discussed buffers from streets and existing dwellings and whether they should be required.
Planner Hofer was directed to review this further and to provide examples of development
patterns in Scandia.
Planner Hofer reported that staff identified some aspects of the ordinance that may be more time-
sensitive, and prepared an updated ordinance that included standards for streets and stormwater
management only. Hofer recommended its adoption, and further discussion on buffer standards
for lot and subdivision design could continue at future meetings. Hofer explained that the Met
Council has recently adopted its Imagine 2050 plan and staff is exploring how these policies will
impact development and subdivision in Scandia.
Planner Hofer noted that the ordinances presented have basically the same standards as discussed
last month for streets, soils analysis, stormwater management and landscaping with one version
removing language regarding buffers. A reference to the Local Roadway Gap Areas as identified
in the Comp Plan was added to the Streets section.
Planner Hofer reviewed the examples of development patterns that he had researched, including
Natures Walk, Rolling Acres, Marydale, Oak Ridge Acres, along with more dense subdivisions
platted in Hugo and Lake Elmo. Planner Hofer noted that the Met Council is okay with the
Natures Walk type of subdivision in the Rural Center, having 1.5 acre lots with open space. Oak
Ridge is the most comparable for the Diversified Area.
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Cullen, seconded by Fodor, moved to recommend the City Council approve the streets and
stormwater management ordinance, and take the rest up at a future meeting. Motion
carried 5-0 by roll call vote.
Rynders, seconded by Hogle, moved to table discussion on buffer amendments to the UDC
subdivision standards. Motion carried 5-0.
The ordinance to establish standards for streets and stormwater management for Major
Subdivisions will be presented to the City Council at their meeting on March 18, 2025.
GENERAL BUSINESS
Planning Commissioner Training and Review - Community Planning
Planner Hofer presented a training on community planning basics, and offered to meet one on
one with the Commissioners if they would like to discuss the topics further.
Update on Distribution Solar Energy System Projects
Planner Hofer reported that staff has been discussing existing Distribution Solar Energy Systems
and how the site plans have been approved. Staff identified issues where city standards do not
reflect what reasonably can be done. Hofer said there may be a potential future UDC amendment
to address the concerns of where essential services can be placed for where the interconnection
poles need to be. Hofer said the CUP for the solar installation at 10929 Scandia Trail North
would require an amendment from the original site plan when clarified.
FUTURE ITEMS: Next meeting – April 1, 2025
Planner Hofer reported that the April meeting will have UDC housekeeping ordinance
amendments, a potential Hill variance, a deck variance, and an application for a zoning text
amendment regarding golf courses and driving ranges.
ADJOURNMENT
Hogle, seconded by Fodor, moved to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brenda Eklund
City Clerk