12-06-2016 Planning Commission
December 6, 2016
The Scandia Planning Commission held their regular monthly meeting on the above date. Chair
Maefsky called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The following were in attendance: Chair
Christine Maefsky, Commissioners Walt Anderson, Tom Noyes and Dan Squyres.
Commissioner Travis Loeffler arrived at 7:03 p.m. Staff present: City Planner Sherri Buss, City
Administrator Neil Soltis and Deputy Clerk Brenda Eklund.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA, MINUTES
Noyes, seconded by Anderson, moved to approve the agenda as presented. The motion
carried unanimously by those present.
Squyres, seconded by Anderson, moved to approve the November 1, 2016 meeting minutes
as presented. The motion carried unanimously by those present.
DISCUSSION ON ACCESSORY STRUCTURE PROVISION ALLOWING
ADDITIONAL DETACHED GARAGE
Josh Chouinard, 10930 185th Street, was present to request an interpretation of the allowed
square footage for accessory structures. His property is less than one-acre in size and the
ordinance permits one 720 square-foot accessory structure for this size property in addition to
one detached garage up to 24’x36’ (864 s.f.) in size for all properties. Mr. Chouinard asked if
this means he can combine the area of the additional garage (864 square feet) plus the 720 square
feet structure to allow him to build a structure up to 1,584 square feet in size.
Planner Buss felt that the original intent was not to combine the area of the structures, but rather
to allow for a detached garage because of the need for a garage in Minnesota’s climate. The
Commissioners agreed to this interpretation of the language.
Mr. Chouinard explained that construction of his house was completed in April 2016 and has an
attached garage. He stated that the site plan survey which was approved in September 2015 for
his building permit included the location and 30’x40’ size of the future building with impervious
lot coverage of less than 25%. He began foundation work with the understanding that this size
building was allowed. Due to the late time of the year, the Building Official approved pouring
the foundation a few weeks ago before the building permit for the accessory structure was
approved. Upon zoning review of his application by staff, he was told he would need to reduce
the size of the building to no larger than 720 square feet.
Staff was directed to investigate whether there was a clerical error in approving the site plan last
September. If so, Administrator Soltis will prepare a letter for the file noting the staff oversight
and a statement than no future accessory structures are allowed on the property. If not an error,
Mr. Chouinard will be ordered to reduce the size of the building.
The Commissioners called for a public hearing to amend the accessory structure ordinance
language to clarify that an additional 24’x36’ garage is permitted only if the principal structure
does not have an attached garage and that the garage square footage cannot be combined with the
accessory building. Staff will prepare this ordinance for a hearing to be held on January 3, 2017.
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DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENTS TO DEVELOPMENT CODE TO IMPLEMENT
STATE VEGETATED BUFFER LAW
Planner Buss explained that the statewide vegetated buffer law which went into effect in June
2015 would require the City to update its Shoreland Ordinance to meet the requirements of the
new law. The law requires a 50-foot perennial “vegetative buffer” along public waters, whereas
Scandia requires 50-foot buffer strips, a slightly different definition. The Shoreland
Management Ordinance No. 107 lists the public waters in Scandia. Administrator Soltis noted
that Gilbertson’s Creek should be added to this list. Carnelian-Marine-St. Croix Watershed
District Administrator Jim Shaver was present to discuss the issue, as watershed districts would
enforce this buffer requirement based on the language in the statute.
Planner Buss stated that this provides an opportunity to update the Shoreland Ordinance with
language based on state law, and to clean-up the ordinance to reference the agencies that are
enforcing the requirements. The Washington Conservation District recently contacted 18-20
landowners in Scandia affected by the buffer law and would provide technical assistance to help
them comply. Shaver said that it is not clear if this law if for cultivated ag land only or if non-ag
land is also affected. He has requested documentation from the WCD to back this up.
Chair Maefsky said that the law appears to have multiple questions around it, and its impact on
Scandia’s ordinance and how it relates to it isn’t quite clear. Staff will continue to research this
and revisit an ordinance update at a future meeting.
DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENTS TO DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 2,
SECTION 4.32 RURAL EVENT FACILITY
The Planning Commission continued their review of the rural event facility ordinance
amendments and had requested information about numbers and sizes of events permitted in other
communities. Buss reported that most have no limits on number of wedding events and allow up
to a maximum of 300 guests. Buss found that various other rural events are limited by number;
for example Scott County limits to 80 per year. The Commissioners concluded not to change the
maximum number of 300 persons in the ordinance, but would state that the number of events
would be regulated through the Annual Operating Permit, which is reviewed on an annual basis.
The Commissioners discussed the language to require security staff be provided if alcoholic
beverages are served, and concluded that for small gatherings the owner could be considered as
security, such as a painting party where wine is served. Commissioner Noyes stated that it’s in
the best interest of the owner to determine the level of liability risk associated with particular
events.
In paragraph 5(B) listing the application requirements for an AOP, it was decided to combine
subsections 1 and 2 into one paragraph to eliminate redundancy. Commissioner Noyes
questioned the need for an annual review process if the operator is proposing no changes. Buss
explained that it provides an opportunity to see what the facility was like over the past year and
to review any complaints that may have been made. If too numerous, the Council can deny an
AOP for one year to have the operator address the problems. Buss said it’s easier to deny an
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AOP than to remove an Interim or Conditional Use Permit. If an operation is going smoothly
over a few years, it could be decided then to drop the annual reviews.
The Commissioners determined that the draft ordinance with amendments to the Rural Event
Facility use is ready for a public hearing at their January 3, 2017 meeting.
DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENTS TO DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING THE
ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE SPREADING OF LAND SEPTAGE WOULD BE AN
ALLOWED USE
At their November meeting, the Commissioners recommended that land spreading of septage be
permitted in Scandia on agricultural properties in the Ag Core and Ag Preserves districts, but not
in the General Rural or Village Neighborhood districts where agricultural use is permitted but lot
sizes are smaller and spreading septage would be more likely to have negative impacts.
The Commissioners reviewed a draft ordinance which would add the County definitions of land
spreading/land application, adds this use to the list of accessory uses in the Ag Core and Ag
Preserves sections, and specifically excludes this use in the GR and VN districts in Chapter 2 of
the development code.
Staff was directed to notice a public hearing regarding these amendments to the development
code at the next Planning Commission meeting on January 3, 2017.
DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENTS TO DEVELOPMENT CODE RELATED TO
EXTERIOR STORAGE, PARKING, AND DEFINITIONS RELATED TO EXTERIOR
STORAGE AND PARKING
The Planning Commission continued to review a draft ordinance to address a number of issues
related to exterior storage and parking. Planner Buss provided some new options to address
problems of enforcement based on the current code requirements.
New language was proposed for Chapter 2, Section 3.2, Accessory Structures, in the
development code to permit an accessory structure in the front yard on small lots less than 5
acres if the building is unable to be located in the side or rear yard due to physical restraints of
the property. The location would be approved administratively rather than by a variance and
would need to meet setback and impervious cover requirements. Commissioners agreed that this
is a reasonable approach for property owners to keep materials and vehicles out of view from
public streets. It was noted that the administrative permit should require the storage building to
be screened from view if applicable.
Buss led the review of the proposed draft ordinance and the following were determined:
Retain the existing definition of impervious surface rather than a change to language used
by the Watershed District.
Revise definition 154, vehicle, abandoned, unlicensed … by adding “one or more of the
following:” and striking “or” after item (4).
Use the Hugo definition for definition 249, recreational vehicle, large (LRV).
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Provide a sketch of yard definitions based on Hugo’s code, but change definition of rear
yard to “the yard between the rear lot line and the rear line of the principal building”.
Remove paragraph (4) of the amended language to Chapter 2, Section 3.3, Environmental
Regulations, (4) Nuisances (E) Abandoned vehicles, as it is redundant to paragraph (1).
Add “equipment” to the sentence on storage of boats, boat docks, and boat lifts stored on
lakeshore parcels between November 1 and May 30.
Much discussion on storage of large recreational vehicles on small lots occurred. Commissioner
Anderson recommended lowering the acreage size to “parcels less than 0.5 acres” instead of one
acre or less in the section on storage of LRV’s and camping vehicles. This allows for one LRV
on lots less than 0.5 acres and up to 2 LRV’s on lots 0.5 acres or more. The screening
requirement for vehicles parked more than 30 days was removed as it was noted that this is not
practical for parking on driveways.
In Section (4), Off-Street Parking for Residential and Agricultural Uses, paragraph (B) would be
amended to allow guest parking for up to 72 hours instead of the current language which states
that no vehicle may be continuously parked or stored outside for more than 72 hours, as
Commissioners reasoned this would not be practical to enforce.
The Commissioners determined that the draft ordinance is ready for a public hearing at their
January 3, 2017 meeting.
ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS
Chair Maefsky recommended that the application for the solar farm permitted to Forest Lake
Holdco be revisited, particularly for the fence that was recently installed at the site.
ADJOURNMENT
Loeffler, seconded by Noyes, moved to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried 5-0.
The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brenda Eklund
Deputy Clerk