3.a 03.05.2008 minutes March 5, 2008
The Scandia Planning Commission held their regular monthly meeting on the above date. The
following were in attendance: Chaiiiiian Chris Ness, Commissioners Tom Krinke, Christine
Maefsky, Susan Rodsjo, Peter Schwarz and TKDA Planners Richard Thompson and Sherri Buss,
TKDA. Chairman Ness called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Chairman Ness welcomed Commissioners Krinke and Rodsjo to their first meeting of the
Planning Commission following their appointment by the City Council on February 19, 2008.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA, MINUTES
Commissioner Schwarz, seconded by Commissioner Maefsky, moved to approve the
agenda as presented. The motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Maefsky, seconded by Commissioner Schwarz, moved to approve the
February 6, 2008 Planning Commission minutes. The motion passed unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARINGS ON SAND AND GRAVEL MINING CUP APPLICATIONS
Three existing sand and gravel mining operations have submitted Conditional Use Permit
applications to the City. Planner Richard Thompson presented an overview of this application
process. Prior to the incorporation of the City of Scandia, sand and gravel mining was regulated
by Washington County, with New Scandia Township requiring an annual mining permit.
Following incorporation, the City assumed authority for all planning and zoning matters and
adopted an updated Mining Ordinance No. 103 in August 2007. The new ordinance established a
process by which the City would issue a new CUP for each existing mining operation. This CUP
will run with the land. Each year, an Annual Operator's Permit will be issued to ensure
compliance with the CUP and ordinance. The City's Planners are currently reviewing the
applications. It is necessary to continue the reviews by the full 120 days (to June 12, 2008)
allowed by state law to gather additional technical expertise to fully evaluate some aspects of the
applications. The Planning Commission opened the public hearings to gather public testimony
and questions in order to further review the applications.
BRACHT BROS. — CUP FOR GRAVEL MINING AND PROCESSING OPERATION
Kirsten Pauly, Sunde Engineering, presented the application for Bracht Bros, Inc. Bracht Bros.
currently operates a sand and gravel extraction site located on 185th Street in Scandia. Twenty-
five acres of the 40-acre site is mined. It is estimated that 10-15 years of mining activity remain
at the site. They propose no change in the extent of operations from those approved in the
previous County permit.
The Planning Commission inquired as to the Reclamation Plan for the site. An explanation of the
slope elevations was given by Ms. Pauly. Commissioner Schwarz questioned if the reclamation
plan will be suitable for future residential development.
Commission Chair Ness opened the hearing to the public.
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• Judy Rydeen, 14633 Oakhill Court and past adjacent property owner, asked how ground
water monitoring is currently being done, as the Rydeens believe their well may have
been polluted years ago. Planner Thompson: A monitoring well is required for this site. A
hydro-geologist will assist with the evaluation and make recommendations to protect
surrounding groundwater. Natalie Fitzpatrick, Bracht Bros., stated that she knew of no
past pollution issues.
• Bill Voedisch, 14625 Old Guslander Trail, inquired as to intent of mining into the
adjacent 40-acre parcel. Ms. Pauly: There are no plans to pursue this. Mr. Voedisch stated
the importance of requiring the operators to "reclaim the property as they go" rather than
at the end of the mining operation. Planner Thompson: On-going reclamation is the intent
of the ordinance.
• Larry Engstrom, 14040 185th Street, asked for details of the reclamation plan. Ms. Pauly:
Restoration will be to a 4:1 slope using on-site materials. The "hole" will not be filled in
completely, but stabilized. Mr. Engstrom asked how dust control will be handled.
Planner Thompson: The applicant is responsible for controlling dust. Additional language
can be written into the CUP to address this issue.
• John Zajac, 14018 185th Street, voiced his safety issue concern regarding the truck traffic
along 185th Street. Mr. Zajaz would like to see speed limit and caution signs in place.
Administrator Hurlburt stated that the city's consultants will evaluate this request for
signage.
Chairman Ness noted that the public hearing will continue to the April 1, 2008 Planning
Commission meeting, at which time additional infoimation will be provided.
DRESEL CONTRACTING, INC.—CUP FOR A GRAVEL MINING AND PROCESSING
OPERATION
Kirsten Pauly, Sunde Engineering, presented the application for Dresel Contracting. Dresel
currently operates a mining and aggregate processing site located on 218th Street, west of Lotion
Avenue, in Scandia. Recycling of concrete and asphalt also occurs on the site. The total site
encompasses 57 acres, of which 35 acres are proposed for active mining. It is estimated that up
to one million cubic yards of aggregate reserves remain at the site. Dresel proposes to excavate
to a depth of 920'. Soil borings identify the water table at an average elevation of 919'. As the
northern boundary is shared with Tiller Corporation, a groundwater monitoring well is proposed
to be located on the north end of the property. This well would function as a down-gradient well
for Dresel and an up-gradient well for Tiller. Ms. Pauly stated the operation would remain as
status quo.
Commission Chair Ness opened the hearing to the public.
• Christine Stevens, 11364 218th Street, inquired as to late-night activity she observed
within the site last summer. Applicant Josh Dresel was not aware of work within the pit
after noinial operating hours. Ms. Pauly advised distributing contact numbers to
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surrounding property owners so that they may immediately report their concerns. Planner
Thompson: This condition could be built into the Annual Operators Permit.
• John Lindell, 11240 218th Street, inquired about the two wetlands shown in the
Reclamation Plan. To his knowledge these wetlands on the western portion have been
excavated and/or drained. Planner Thompson: The condition of these wetlands will be
evaluated.
Chairman Ness noted that the public hearing will continue to the April 1, 2008 Planning
Commission meeting, at which time additional information will be provided.
TILLER CORPORATION —CUP FOR A MINING AND PROCESSING OPERATION
Kirsten Pauly, Sunde Engineering, presented the application for Tiller Corporation. Tiller
currently operates a sand and gravel extraction site located at 22303 Manning Trail. The site
includes several parcels, totaling 395 acres. Mining and reclamation is proposed on 155 of these
acres. Permitted activities include mining and processing aggregate, the production of hot-mix
asphalt, and the recycling of concrete and asphalt products. It is estimated that 20-30 years of
mining activity remain at the site, depending on market demand. Tiller indicates that due to the
variable nature of the deposit, it is proposed to mine into the groundwater for the first time under
the new permit. This activity has been described in previous mining plans, but has not yet been
implemented. Ms. Pauly stated that mining below the water table is currently an approved
practice at various mines within the metro area, and will not be unique to this site. No dewatering
process will occur on this site. Groundwater monitoring will be conducted on an annual basis at
the three wells on the site, with plans to install three additional monitoring wells.
The Planning Commission discussed the application. Commissioner Ness asked about the
proposed depth of mining. Mike Caron, Tiller Corporation: Forty-five feet would be the
maximum depth to remove material. A lake would form at an elevation of 916'. Commissioners
Krinke and Rodsjo inquired as to the how chemicals related to the hot-mix process are
monitored. Mr. Caron: The parts washer solvent is included in the Spill Prevention Control Plan
required by the state; the local fire department has notice of materials on site; various other
permits require reporting. Commissioner Rodsjo inquired how the asphalt/mining activity is
divided. Mr. Caron: It is about a 50/50 split of activity, although it can vary. Mayor Seefeldt
voiced a concern of trucks on the roads during evening hours in the late fall. The trucks could be
a hazard due to poor lighting on the trucks themselves. A consideration of operation hours in
Nov/Dec should be given in the AOP.
Commission Chair Ness opened the hearing to the public.
• Perry Ingram, 22355 Kirk Court, inquired about general statistics of the operation. Is
usage consistent with the City's road plan? Mr. Caron: Truck traffic is not expected to
change greatly; 2007 was an atypical year regarding truck traffic (higher than average).
The main access routes travel along County and State roads. Does washing the product
on-site concentrate any minerals within one location? Mr. Caron: The clay/silt sediment
is collected and used in reclamation activities, but has not been tested. Mr. Caron
indicated that the composition could be evaluated, but he felt that it was just the natural
soils being washed off.
• Pat Wilke, 21757 Manning Trail, commented that emission odors from the asphalt
operation have gotten worse during the past few years. The truck traffic and air quality
are concerns for her.
• Harry Vecchiollo, 10421 230th Street, inquired on the depth of the water table. Ms. Pauly:
The bedrock is at a depth of 140-220 feet, under which is the confined aquifer. How are
test wells monitored? Mr. Caron: Currently using one water table monitoring well, two
others for groundwater monitoring. Tiller proposes to add three additional wells. The
samples are tested by independent firms which forward the results to the state and city.
• Lewis Gramer, 11345 2287th Street, relayed information he obtained regarding mining
below the water table. His conclusion was that as long as an individual's well is tapped
into the confined aquifer, there is no threat of contamination by Tiller's proposal. The
State Department of Health can typify the depth of each individual well in the
surrounding area. An evaluation will be conducted by the City regarding the records of
those wells within one-half mile of the site prior to the issuance of the CUP.
• Pam Miller, 21895 Manning Trail, was concerned about the high speed of the truck
traffic. Ms. Miller made four calls to the Sheriff's Department last summer to report
excessive speed. Mike Caron: A call should also be made to Tiller with the truck
identification; Tiller will take action against the driver. Repeat offenders will be not
allowed to use the gravel pit.
• John Lindell, 11240 218th Street, voiced his most significant concern being that of
groundwater protection. Mr. Lindell would like the City to require an Environmental
Assessment Worksheet as he feels there are advances in testing since that last EAW was
completed in 1999.
Commissioner Maefsky questioned Tiller as to what additional agencies oversee the
mining/asphalt operation. Ms. Pauly: Minnesota Pollution Control Agency monitors air
emissions, stormwater run-off, noise standards; Depai talent of Natural Resources issues a water
appropriation permit; Federal agency (part of Homeland Security) is provided a Spill Prevention
Plan regarding on-site chemicals; Car-Mar Watershed, Comfort Lake/Forest Lake Watershed and
the Soil and Water District monitor surface water issues; MnSHA monitors worker safety;
Washington County receives reports on hazardous waste. Commissioner Maefsky to Mr. Lindell:
Do you think this is not enough regarding regulations? Mr. Lindell: These issues should be
further studied and given a new look as analysis standards and tools may have been updated
since the last EAW in 1999.
Chairman Ness noted that the public hearing will continue to the April 1, 2008 Planning
Commission meeting, at which time additional information will be provided.
Site visits of all the gravel operations will be conducted as soon as the weather is conducive.
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FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS — ORDINANCE NO. 110
Administrator Hurlburt presented the draft ordinance of floodplain regulations which must be
adopted by the City in order to continue to participate in the National Flood Insurance Program.
Previous to incorporation, Scandia operated under Washington County's Code. The draft
ordinance was prepared using a model recommended by the DNR. Carnelian-Marine-St. Croix
Watershed and the DNR reviewed the draft ordinance and requested slight changes to language.
Administrator Hurlburt reviewed these changes with the Planning Commission and Council.
Chair Ness opened the hearing to the public. No comments were given and the hearing closed.
Commissioner Schwarz, seconded by Commissioner Maefsky, moved to recommend to the
City Council to adopt draft Ordinance 110, Chapter 6 of the Development Code Pertaining
to Floodplain Management Regulations with the recommended changes. The motion
passed unanimously.
SELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR FOR 2008
Commissioner Schwarz, seconded by Commissioner Maefsky, moved to appoint
Commissioner Ness as Chair of the Planning Commission for a one year term. The motion
passed unanimously.
Commissioner Schwarz, seconded by Commissioner Ness, moved to appoint Commissioner
Maefsky as Vice-Chair of the Planning Commission for a one-year term. The motion
passed unanimously.
REVIEW CITY OF MARINE'S COMPREHESIVE PLAN
By law, the City of Marine submitted its Comprehensive Plan to Scandia on February 6, 2008 for
review. They have requested comments as soon as possible, as they intend to submit the plan to
the Metropolitan Council by April 1, 2008. Administrator Hurlburt reported that the plan appears
to have little impact on Scandia's planning, other than a strategy in the Transportation Plan
section. Marine proposes an alternative traffic pattern west of the City's boundaries in an effort
to reduce north/south traffic through Marine. As this could affect Scandia, Administrator
Hurlburt presented a draft letter commenting on this approach. This letter would also be copied
to the Met Council.
Commissioner Maefsky, seconded by Commissioner Krinke, moved to submit comments
regarding the transportation strategy to the City of Marine. The motion passed
unanimously.
WILLOWBROOK COMMUNITY CHURCH -- RESOLUTION 03-08-05-03
Review of the Willowbrook Church Conditional Use Permit for a Place of Worship on a 40.5
acre parcel located west of 11262 Scandia Trail was continued from February 6, 2008. The
Applicant met in a Special Meeting with the Council and Planning Commission on February 12,
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2008 to discuss alternative site plan layouts and landscaping ideas. Representatives of the church
agreed to consider revisions to the site plan which would move the building and parking lot 50
feet to the north and to add additional planting areas. It was felt that the additional 50 feet would
allow room for a more natural landscape plan and would minimize the obtrusiveness of the
structure along Highway 97. This was a compromise, arrived at in lieu of redesigning the site
plan to place the parking lot to the rear and/or side of the building. On February 22nd, a letter was
received from Mn DOT requesting that the driveway entrance be relocated due to inadequate
sight distance. Architect Chris Doehrmann submitted a revised plan showing the access relocated
to the east. No additional information about landscaping or lighting was presented.
Mayor Seefeldt introduced a resolution which summarizes the City's position and gives direction
to the applicant in a way to specifically formalize an approval of design. An excerpt of the
resolution reads:
a. The building and parking lot shall be moved 50 feet north of the location shown on
the plan received on January 11, 2008 and the grading and drainage plans shall be
revised accordingly.
b. A screening and landscape plan shall be submitted, meeting all of the requirements of
Chapter 2, Section 9.12 of the Development Code, including preparation by a
qualified Landscape Architect and itemization of size, number and species of all plant
materials. In addition to the specific standards of the ordinance, the following
guidance is given:
• Additional planting islands shall be included within the parking lot to
minimize the expanse of asphalt, as discussed at the February 12 meeting.
• Plant materials chosen should be native species and no invasive species shall
be included.
• Formal plantings should be minimized in order to reflect vegetation patterns
more typical of rural areas.
• Any bei ins or landforms used to provide screening for the parking lot, and for
the surrounding uses, should be as natural in appearance as possible. Fences
should be avoided unless they enhance the natural appearance of the screening
and are consistent with the architecture of the building and surrounding rural
character.
• Restoration of native prairie and savanna areas, or other plant communities
that are native to the Scandia area, should be included in the design.
c. A lighting plan shall be submitted, meeting all of the requirements of Chapter 2,
Section 9.8 of the Development Code including the performance standards applicable
to residential/agricultural districts. The lighting plan shall include information on the
time(s) of day during which the lighting will be used and how it will be controlled to
avoid a negative impact on adjacent properties and scenic views in the surrounding
area.
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Commissioner Maefsky felt that while the resolution is helpful in giving direction, the
precedence setting nature of the request to allow a prominent structure outside of the Village
Center runs counter to the direction of the Comprehensive Plan. Commissioner Maefsky stated
that she cannot support allowing the suburban-style parking lot layout to the front of the building
and believes the structure glaringly distracts from the open rural look the community wants.
Commissioners Krinke and Rodsjo felt this was a reasonable compromise and the resolution
clarifies what the City is requesting. Commissioner Rodsjo felt that the glass front does not give
the building rural character and made suggestions of alternate materials. A further defined
landscape plan will be needed.
Commissioner Schwarz commented on the February 12th meeting in which it was concluded that
moving the parking lot behind the building was not workable. Moving the building back 50 feet
is an acceptable compromise.
Chair Ness felt that this resolution can break the gridlock of the situation and will move the
proposal along.
Commissioner Schwarz, seconded by Commissioner Krinke, moved to recommend to the
City Council to adopt Resolution 03-05-08-03 Summarizing the Position on the Application
by Willowbrook Church for a Conditional Use Permit. Voting yes: Schwarz, Rodsjo, Ness,
Krinke. Voting no: Maefsky. Motion passed.
The deadline for review of the CUP is May 17, 2008 and can be extended by request of the
applicant. It was recommended to Mr. Doehiivann and Pastor Reis that a subcommittee meet
with the church to review landscape and lighting plans prior to presenting at a future Planning
Commission meeting.
Commissioner Rodsjo made a motion to adjourn.
The meeting adjourned at 10:37 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brenda Eklund
Deputy Clerk