2. Maefsky Date: November 19, 2008
To: Planning Commission Members
From: Christine Maefsky
Re: My thoughts to date on the changes made and being considered in the "final"
Comprehensive Plan document.
Although I've noted a lot of items, I think that's because the document is so
comprehensive and thorough; there's just a lot to it. And, when we make a
change in one place, that change often impacts other provisions. So, here's my
best thinking at the moment. I welcome yours now or at next Tuesday's meeting.
Thanks.
Items agreed to by consensus at the November 18 meeting:
1. In the Lot Averaging provision, change the 2-4 acres to 2-5 acres.
Rationale: In the Ag Core area there would be smaller "hobby farms"
with limited livestock allowed to complement the rural character of larger
farms and residential.
2. Remove the word "Residential" from the General Rural district name.
Rationale: Residential dwellings are key uses in most districts
3. Either eliminate or change the bottom picture on page 110 to one from Scandia.
(Actually, the top house picture could be one with more "community character"
landscaping.)
Big issue: should we continue to support two separate "rural" districts — the Ag Core
District and the General Rural District?
1. If"yes" how should they be the same and how should they be different?
2. Are the differences distinct? Are they positive? Do they lead to the desired
direction for future development of Scandia?
3. What is our rationale for the different provisions?
4. We discussed the concept of several vs. few districts at multiple meetings
including two public meetings. While not unanimous, there was more than
majority support for creating several districts. Rationale: residents and potential
developers would be clear about the direction the city was going in guiding
development. Residents could have more assurance about how their
neighborhood and the city would look in the future; developers would have more
assurance about the parameters they had for planning development in different
parts of the city.
If we have two separate "rural districts":
1. Should potential bonus densities be the same?
a. If so, should they be 50%, 75%, or 100% earning potential?
b. If so, should conservation design development automatically start with
a 25% bonus? - or— is this not even a question to decide now?
c. Either way, should bonuses in the Ag Core district be different from
those in the General Rural, for example, in the Ag Core give larger
bonuses for promoting agricultural use? Actually, this is already
suggested in LU Implementation Strategy 5.3. 1 (p.177 new) (and p.
194 new)
2. It would be helpful if we all read over the current New Scandia Township
Development Code regarding bonus densities (pp 2. 12.9 - 2.12.11.)
3. It would also be helpful if we all read over the "Goals, Policies and Strategies
section regarding the two districts (pp. 131 - 132 - new)
(Sorry, once a teacher... )
5. What are the differences in the two "rural districts":
a. Ag Core -Allows Conservation Design Development or Lot Averaging
only
General Rural - Allows Conservation Design Development or 10 acre
lots only
Rationale: Ag Core development design promotes larger tracts of land
being preserved for larger scale agriculture; General Rural design
promotes smaller tracts of land used for residential and smaller hobby
farms. (This was the reasoning put forth at the meeting where this
difference was decided.)
OR could we add Lot Averaging to the General Rural area also, but
keep the 10 acre option only in the General Rural, still a difference that
could support the rationale.
b. ?
c. ?
6. Shouldn't the boundaries on the page 55 map (Map 15) be consistent with the
final Ag Core boundaries pp. 105 and 107 (Maps 26 and 27)?
7. P.57 - first line should be "road networks" (plural) 1 think.
8. P.110 - Within the General Rural description, 10 acres needs to be spelled out as
OK. Perhaps it could simply be added as a modifier to final paragraph reference,
making that - "large acreage parcels of 10 acres or more". (also on p. 195
"Density/Intensity")
9. P. 111- top paragraph: need to address the density bonus percentage.
10. LU Policy 6.2 (p. 132 new): Change "Require" to "Encourage" or some other
word between the two.
II. LU I.S. 6.2.1: need to address the bonus density
12. P. 132, Add 6.2.2: add a "right to farm" provision, at least for existing farms.
13. LU Goal 7: (p133 new): What does "in developed areas" mean? Need to define it
better.
14. and Policy 7.1 If we've already provided ways to increase density via bonuses,
when would TDR be more useful? (Note: I do not remember talking about this
and wonder where it came from?) and
15. p. 178, LU Implementation Strategy 7.1.1: in reference to the preceding #13,
Shouldn't "Semi-Rural" land use area be "General Rural"? (And, as in #13, I still
question whether this makes sense.)
16. Within this Land Use Section we need reference to 10 acre lots.
17. P. 134 (new) LU Implementation Strategy 9.1.2: Change "Require" to
"Encourage"
18. P. 142 (new) ED I,S. 2.3.3 What are "arts incubators". Perhaps define it in
glossary. (and p. 182 new)
19. P.143 (new) ED Policy 4.2: Where ag is the primary use?? Or secondary
perhaps?? What if we wanted to create a small "farm store" for our products as
say Pat Daninger did in Forest Lake? Would the provision in ED I.S. 4.2.1 "in or
near ag core areas" cover us and others like us? (and p. 183 new)
20. Pp. 147 and 150 (new), Maps 30 and 31: The Ozark Avenue extensions don't
seem the same.
21. Pp. 161-168 (new), Maps 33-40: On the colored scores for rivers, streams, lakes,
wetlands: is the highest number most desirable? I presume so, but don't see a
Key.
22. Is it correct to assume that, even if an Implementation Strategy is to he completed
within 10 years, it could be worked on and completed much sooner if the interest
and will to do so exists?
23. P.176 (new) LU I.S. 5.1.1: need to change densities to 4 per 40 and lot averaging
sizes to 2 to 5 acres or 20 acres.
24. P. 180 (new), H Implementation Strategy 1.4.1: should accessibility be described
as "the preferred internal design for new houses."? Would that mean we support
only one-story houses or perhaps also walk-outs?
25, P.193 (new) — Village Neighborhood, Density/Intensity: Is the description of lot
sizes on Goose Lake consistent with our now having added it to the Village
Neighborhood area?
26. P. 194 (new) — Density/Intensity: change "lots of 2 to 5 acres".
27. P. 195 and 196 (new): why are we allowing two-family residential in the
Lakeshore Conservation overlay and not in the Lakeshore Traditional or the
General Rural or Ag Core?
28, P. 196, Lakeshore Conservation Overlay: last column: put in specifically "no
bonuses" as is stated in the St. Croix River Corridor below.
29. Pp. 191 — 197, the Future Land Use Areas Summary Matrix: I thought this was
supposed to be a summary of the Land Use descriptions and Policies and
Implementation Strategies that came before. Yet, it seems to add new information
such as "Single and two-family residential" as a primary land use.
30. Aren't pp 234 — 250 basically repeats of pp 121-151 — "Goals, Policies and
Strategies"? Why are they needed?