3.a April 7, 2009 minutes draft April 7, 2009
The Scandia Planning Commission held their regular monthly meeting on the above date. The
following were in attendance: Chairman Chris Ness, Commissioners Torn Krinke, Christine
Maefsky, Susan Rodsjo, Peter Schwarz and City Planner Sherri Buss. Chairman Ness called the
meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA, MINUTES
Schwarz, seconded by Rodsjo, moved to approve the agenda as presented. The motion
passed unanimously.
Rodsjo, seconded by Schwarz, moved to approve the March 3, 2009 minutes as presented.
The motion passed unanimously.
PUBLIC SCOPING MEETING, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY (EIS), TILLER
CORPORATION'S ZAVORAL MINING AND RECLAMATION PROJECT
City Planner Sherri Buss presented an overview of the process of the Environmental Impact
Study which is needed for Tiller's Zavoral Mining and Reclamation Project. The purpose of this
public scoping meeting is to identify potentially significant issues relevant to the proposed
mining project and identify alternatives that will be examined in depth in the EIS. A final
scoping decision document must be issued within 15 days of the public scoping meeting, which
is scheduled to be adopted at the April 21 Council meeting.
A draft Scoping Decision Document was reviewed with representatives of Tiller on March 30`h.
Tiller indicated revisions to the project, which were received in writing just prior to this
evening's meeting. The asphalt and concrete recycling portion of the project will be removed,
and the restoration phasing plan will be revised to begin reclamation at the start of the project.
City Planner Buss reviewed the draft scoping document, in which six alternatives were
identified. These alternatives, which will be examined in depth in the EIS, include Tiller's
preferred project, a no-build alternative, and four alternatives that propose a different scale or
project magnitude. The EIS will examine all relevant issues not adequately addressed in the
EAW, which were identified in the Findings of Fact and Record of Decision(March 3, 2009).
Data gathering and analysis will focus on a number of topics, which Planner Buss summarized.
Commission Chair Ness questioned if the alternatives in the draft document will all be a part of
the EIS. Planner Buss: No, changes may be made to this draft list and incorporated into the final
scoping document which will be adopted on April 21.
Commissioner Schwarz asked for the distinction between restoration and reclamation. Planner
Buss: The ordinance requires reclamation to return the land to a condition suitable for the
allowed uses at this site (agriculture, residential, open space). Restoration, not required by the
ordinance but can be designated in the EIS, requires that native plant communities be re-
established.
Chairman Ness opened the meeting to public comments.
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Dan Seemon, Ecologist with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers: Mr. Seemon stated that a new
wetland delineation needs to be done within the growing season and requires approval by the
Corps' Technical Evaluation Panel.
Lisa Schlingerman, 20661 Quint Avenue: Ms. Schlingerman asked for definition of the no-build
alternative. Planner Buss: This is a technical term used in the environmental review which will
describe the potential impacts if the existing land uses (Agricultural and Rural Residential) on
the Zavoral site were to continue. It is a requirement in the MEQB rules to include this
alternative. Ms. Schlingerman asked if adjusting the processing activities to a seasonal schedule
(early spring and late fall) will extend the life of the mining project. Mike Caron, Tiller: No,
seasonal processing adjustments will not extend the 10-year time frame of the project.
Judy Herbert, 15125 220(1 Street: Ms. Herbert stated that a complete well inventory of
surrounding properties needs to be done, and the potential impacts to these wells must be
studied. Planner Buss: The scope includes a well inventory and study (Item 13, Water Use). Ms.
Herbert asked if the public will have an opportunity to be involved in the request for proposals to
identify consultants to complete the EIS. Administrator Hurlburt: The RFP process will be done
through Council meetings, at which all documents will be available to the public to review and
comment on.
Roger Harvieux, 20258 St. Croix Trail: Mr. Harvieux asked what costs the city takes on through
this EIS process. Administrator Hurlburt: State rules allow the city to charge costs back to the
applicant. These include both direct costs and indirect costs such as staff time.
Jim Shaver, Carnelian-Marine-St. Croix Watershed Administrator: Mr. Shaver inquired if
involved agencies are able to have their costs reimbursed. Administrator Hurlburt: No, only
costs to the Responsible Government Unit (RGU) are allowed.
Bill Clapp, 19955 Quinnell Avenue: Mr. Clapp identified two areas that need further definition.
1) Study of the economic effects of the proposed project need to be more detailed; 2) There are
sections in the project alternatives which could be improved upon. The hours of operation need
to be more defined and scoped so as to determine how quickly the mining project can be
finished, perhaps in 5 years if possible. Perhaps there should be no reclamation in the riverway
corridor, as this could do more damage than just leaving it as is.
Kristin Tuenge, 20595 Quinnell Avenue: Ms. Tuenge asked how alternatives can be eliminated.
Chairman Ness: The proposer can revise the project, such as Tiller's offer to remove the
concrete and asphalt recycling activity and by modifying the reclamation timetable. Ms. Tuenge
asked how it is determined which permits are needed. Administrator Hurlburt: Pei inits are
determined by the existing rules of the agencies.
Georgiana Anderson, 20453Quinnell Avenue: Ms. Anderson asked how restoration can begin at
the onset of the project. Kirsten Pauley, Tiller: There are four acres of previously disturbed land
that lies within the Riverway District which will not be mined. Vegetation will be established
and reclamation completed in this area at the onset of the project.
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Sam Eberhart, 20455 Quinnell Avenue: Mr. Eberhart suggested that mining reports gathered
from when the mine previously operated should be analyzed for potential impacts.
Lisa Schlingerman: Who decides how to restore the property? Kirsten Pauley, Tiller: The
Minnesota DNR and National Parks Service will be involved in the restoration plan, which will
ultimately be approved by the City.
Wayne Barstad, Minnesota DNR: The DNR will approximate the suitable vegetation for the site
to fit in with the larger landscape and by determination of the most appropriate end-use of this
site.
Judy Herbert: Ms. Herbert identified additional items for study: I) Analysis of the maximum
height of the stockpiles; 2) Identify the chemicals used in the washing process; 3) Mitigation
plans of oil and gas from the equipment; 4) Will incoming topsoil be screened for contaminants?
5) How close to the groundwater will mining occur? 6) How deep will the production wells be?
7) What aquifer will be tapped for well use?
Bill Clapp: If a mining permit is allowed, then a certain end date to this mining project should be
detennined.
Ron Johnson, 2878 50th Avenue, Osceola, WI: Mr. Johnson questioned if the bluff areas across
the river in Wisconsin will be included in the noise, dust, and viewshed analyses. Planner Buss:
Yes, all adjacent areas, including Wisconsin, will be included in the studies.
Roger Harvieux: Who has the responsibility to monitor the operation to prevent a catastrophic
event? Administrator Hurlburt: The conditions of the operation are outlined within the CUP and
AOP issued by the City. On-going monitoring will include inspections during the mining season.
Financial guarantees are also held by the City.
Judy Herbert: How will non-environment problems be addressed, such as impacts on property
values? Administrator Hurlburt: Potential adverse impacts to surrounding properties are
analyzed and negative visual impacts are taken into consideration as part of Item 9 (economic
impacts).
Chairman Ness closed the public comment portion of the scoping meeting.
Commissioner Krinke inquired on how lighting from the trucks and those within the mine will be
addressed. Planner Buss: This analysis will be included in the traffic and visual impact studies.
Krinke suggested that in Alternative #1 (page 2), the words "current Comprehensive Plan" be
replaced with "2020 Comprehensive Plan" which was in place when the application was made
last November.
Commissioner Maefsky suggested that the economic impact in Item 9 be expanded to include the
effects of the operation on the quality of life in Scandia.
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Commissioner Rodsjo echoed this concern and thought study of the economic and social impacts
should be more specific.
Commissioner Schwarz stated that although Tiller withdrew the recycling of concrete and
asphalt, a more specific statement as to what material can be allowed into the site should be
incorporated. There may be the potential for other hazardous materials being trucked into the
site. Administrator Hurlburt: It can be clarified that no material be brought in to mix with the on-
site product, known as add-rock.
Commissioner Rodsjo questioned if other site alternatives can be studied that are not in
proximity to the river and water sources, as an exchange to mitigate this location. Planner Buss:
No, mitigation cannot be applied to a resource on a different site. A separate application process
would need to begin with any proposal to mine at an alternate location.
Commissioner Maefsky inquired how the items listed on page 6 were determined to be not
relevant for inclusion in the EIS. Planner Buss: These items were adequately addressed in the
EAW or found to be too minor to include in the EIS.
Commissioner Rodsjo asked for an estimate of the number of trees that will be removed in the
mining operation, and how will this effect on the temperature of surface water be studied.
Kirsten Pauley, Tiller: There will be eight acres of new mining on this site, and trees cover
approximately three acres within this area. Planner Buss: The impact of tree removal will be
studied in the surface water section by examining temperature as a pollutant.
Council member Lindell asked how it was determined that certain items he removed from
review. Planner Buss: These items were adequately addressed in the EAW, but a statement to
expand on this conclusion will be added to the scoping document. Lindell suggested a
clarification that permits from other agencies will be necessary.
Council member Crum asked if past effects of mining can be studied as potential ecological
impacts. Planner Buss: Historical information will be used to the extent that it can, but that
information may not be reliable. Field inventories will be necessary to gauge current conditions.
Mayor Seefeldt brought up a situation which happened in 1966 when a "blow-out" into the river
occurred under a previous mining operator. The EIS should further define costs to restore or
reverse damage. Planner Buss: The issue of restoration or mitigation costs can be looked at.
Letters of credit to cover costs of potential impacts would be a requirement of a Conditional Use
Permit.
Commission Chair Ness felt that Alternative #3 can be eliminated, as the applicants have
indicated that the asphalt and concrete recycling operation will be removed from the proposed
project. Planner Buss stated that Alternative #6 may also be removed from the final scoping
document, as Tiller intends to revise the reclamation schedule.
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Administrator Hurlburt stated that written comments received by April 10 will be considered in
the preparation of the final scoping decision document that must be approved by the Council on
April 21.
STATUS OF NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES
Design Standards Committee
Commissioner Rodsjo presented a status report of the Design Standards Committee. The
committee's goal is to publish a guidebook of architectural design standards with examples to
guide facade improvements to existing and new commercial development within Scandia.
Standards of similar historical communities are being studied. The committee has made great
progress and consensus of all was to continue in this direction.
Transfer of Development Rights Committee
Commissioner Maefsky will lead the committee to study the use of Transfer of Development
Rights for achieving agricultural preservation and natural resource protection. A notice
requesting volunteers to serve on this committee will be posted on the city website. Plans are to
begin meeting next month.
The meeting adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brenda Eklund
Deputy Clerk