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LHL comments received at the 04 25 17 meetingMy name is John Goodfellow and I am a resident of Marine on St. Croix. I am a Master Watershed Steward and am currently working on issues related to shoreline erosion caused by boat wakes in the Scenic stretch of the river. I support Option 3, reconfiguring Log House Landing to serve primarily as a carry in site for launching small light boats, canoes, and kayaks. There are three reasons why Option 3 makes sense: 1. It is consistent with the Cooperative Management Plan for the Lower St Croix National Scenic Riverway. 2. It addresses the issue of disturbance and erosion in the riparian zone, and subsequent sedimentation in the river. 3. It affords the best opportunity for engaging with and educating river users on some important issues of concern. First, the current Cooperative Management Plan for the Lower St Croix River, signed by the National Park Service and the States of Minnesota and Wisconsin in January 2002 designates two classifications of waters in the Scenic Riverway from Taylors Falls downstream to the Arcola Sandbar: ➢ The main channel is designated as "quiet water". The plan describes management of these waters for recreational uses that leave the surface of the river largely undisturbed. While both motorized and nonmotorized watercraft are allowed, speed is to be kept low. ➢ Backwater areas in this same stretch of river are designated as "natural waters". The management objective for this class of water is for watercraft speeds to be low and the surface of the water undisturbed. Regulations in both Minnesota and Wisconsin provide useful definitions for both classes of water: Slow speed' means operation of a motorboat at a leisurely speed, less than planing speed, whereby the wake or wash created by the motorboat is minimal. 1 MN Rule 6105.0320 subpart 5 and W1 NR5.32(4) "Slow -no wake' means operation of a motor boat at the slowest possible speed necessary to maintain steerage, not to exceed 5mph. Since "deep V" fishing boats with large motors can generate significant wakes it would seem any "improvement" to accommodate their launch at Log House Landing would be inconsistent with the low intensity forms of water-based recreation described in the river's Comprehensive Management Plan. Secondly, the matter of improvement to the Landing began with concern for the need to reduce sediment laden runoff reaching the river. The steepness of the bank and ramp, and the erosive soils present a challenge. Restoring vegetation on the river's edge will buffer runoff, trapping sediments from the access road and parking area from entering the river. The Comprehensive Management Plan also calls for limiting the siting and placing new structures in the river view. Carry -in launching of small watercraft requires less visually obtrusive launch site infrastructure, and the act of hand launching a boat creates little or no disturbance at the water's edge. As an added benefit, eliminating trailer access will free up space for other uses of the site. Finally, it's clear that many river users are unaware of regulations regarding wakes on the Scenic Riverway. Aquatic Invasive Species are also known to "hitchhike" on boat trailers, outboard motors, and in bilge water and live wells. This -is much less of a concern when it comes to canoes, kayaks, and other small boats. Diverting larger trailer -launched boats to other more suitable launch facilities such as Wm O'Brien State Park improves the opportunity for public engagement and education, reduces the likelihood of damaging wakes and the potential for the spread of Aquatic Invasive Species, and reduces the amount of sediment entering the river at Log House Landing. 2 MN Rule 6105.0320 subpart 4 and WI NR5.32(3) Good Evening. My name is Terry Barczak. Thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight. Our family has owned our place on the St. Croix, less than a mile south of the landing, for over 18 years. We feel truly fortunate to have this beautiful and important river in our lives. Our children grew up swimming and fishing here and have a deep respect for the natural resources that we all share. I have carefully looked at the issues and concerns surrounding The Log House Landing. Here are some of my thoughts: 1. Leaving it like it is, and continuing to allow trailers, is dearly not the solution - it does not fix the erosion problem and would require repetitive and expensive maintenance. 2. 1 believe dosing the landing would be a major and unnecesary loss to our community. 3. To build a large concrete ramp at the site of the Log House Landing would be a serious and irreparable mistake. it would forever change the character and damage the unique quality of our part of the river. It would create an eyesore and scar on the natural green shoreline that defines the St: Croix and that is an important part of what we in Scandia are so proud of. In fact, it seems diametrically opposed to the law and spirit of the Scenic River Act which seeks to preserve the natural beauty for all who travel and use the river. A concrete ramp would forever change the whole area of the Log House Landing. A ramp would invite many many more cars, trucks and trailers. The parking lot would have to swell and traffic (and more vehicles ) would overflow up the hill onto Quint and Quinnell. This is unacceptable. I am not against development, (and am aware that the city of Scandia is pursing needed and welcome change), but this is not where to put development dollars. In simple terms, this is an inappropriate and misguided fix to the problem of the Log House Landing. Luckily there are two other ideal launch sites very close by. The launch site and parking lot in O'Brian State Park is designed for trucks and trailers. (the Log House landing was never intended to handle trailers). And it is virtually minutes away. The launch site in Oscelo is another very excellent option. So, please lets protect the treasure that we are so lucky to have. The only way to preserve our river is the carry -in option. 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[?] G� Sign Petition (/petitions/save-scandias-river-boat-access/sign.htmD 0 View Petition (/petitions/save-scandias- river- boat-access.html) O Map (/petitions/save-scandias-river-boat-access/signature-map.htmD �0 Tell (/tell.php?petid-84688) % Banners (/banners page. ph p?petid=84688#banners) A Bookmark 101 Tip Jar (/one-off-sponsorship.php) Save Scandia's River Boat Access (/petitions/save-scandias- rive r-boat-access.htmU This petition (/petitions/save-scandias-river-boat-access.htmL) was published by Ross Brunfelt (/author.php?petid-84688) on Apr 10, 2017 Public Signature List (/petitions/save-scandias-river-boat-access/signatures.htmi) 0 Map (/petitions/save-scandias-river-boat-access/signature-map.htmL) RSS Search sigs by last name Signatures 50 to a of 276 # Name 50 Anonymous 49 Anonymous 48 Kyle Swenson 47 Anonymous 46 Anonymous 45 Sam Esget Town/City Cold spring Scandia Scandia Marine on St. Croix Scandia Forest lake S/C/P Region Comment Date Mn USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 Mn USA NIG Apr 11, 2017 Minnesota USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 Washigto USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 MN USA Minnesota USA 44 Jeni Garbe Scandia Mn USA 43 Anonymous Scandia Minnesota USA 42 Darrin Gould Scandia Minnesota USA 41 Shanaya Vanderschaege Stillwater Minnesota USA 40 Riley Hawkins Saint Croix Falls WI USA 39 Adam Johnson Stillwater Mn USA 38 Tyler Lichtscheidl Scandia Minnesota USA 37 Ed Kubicki Shafer MN USA 36 Anonymous N/G MN USA 35 Anonymous Wyoming Minnesota N/G 34 Lindsey Loften Blaine Minnesota USA 33 Jeremy Hinton Zimmerman MN USA 32 Case Goodyear Scandia Minnesota USA 31 kyle Girling forest lake Minnesota USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 View (/petition- Apr 11, 2017 comment.php? cid=2126i1g1) N/G Apr 11, 2017 N/G Apr 11, 2017 N/G Apr 11, 2017 N/G Apr 11, 2017 N/G Apr 11, 2017 N/G Apr 11, 2017 N/G Apr 11, 2017 N/G Apr 11, 2017 N/G Apr 11, 2017 View (/petition- Apr 11, 2017 comment.php?cid=21261111) N/G Apr 11, 2017 N/G Apr 11, 2017 N/G Apr 11, 2017 N/G Apr 11, 2017 Go 30 Amanda Bearth Marine on st croix Minnesota USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 29 Alecia Kees Scandia MN USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 28 Burke Snderdon Scandia Washington USA View (/petition- Apr 11, 2017 county, mn comment.php? cid=21261068) 27 Matt Mollen Scandia Mn USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 26 Roger Tuckner MN Stillwater USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 25 Kurt Koehler Franconia Minnesota USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 24 Holly Tuckner Stillwater Mn USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 23 Ryan Jinks Scandia Minnesota USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 22 Robert Daniels Marine MN USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 21 Daniel Swanson Center City Chisago USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 20 Rachelle Henkel Chicago Mn USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 19 Scott Kees Scandia Minnesota USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 18 Jan Isaacson Scandia MN USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 17 Greg Isaacson Scandia Minnesota USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 15 Angela Hames Scandia MN USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 15 Renee Lee Scandia Minnesota USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 14 Jamey Ewald West Lakeland N/G N/G N/G Apr 11, 2017 Twp. 13 Olaf Bakken Gunnison CO USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 12 Kelly Wilson Maring of St Croix MN USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 11 Don Frogner Scandia Washington USA View (/petition- Apr 11, 2017 comment.php? cid=21260533) 10 Chris Berg Minnetonka Minnesota N/G N/G Apr 11, 2017 9 Anonymous Scandia MN USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 8 Tayler Charais Scandia Minnesota USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 7 Brian Heilman Scandia Mn USA View (/petition- Apr 11, 2017 comment.php? cid=21260494) 6 Mike Benson Scandia, MN Minnesota USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 5 David WILSON Minnesota Scandia USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 4 Peter Moskop NIG N/G N/G N/G Apr 11, 2017 3 thomas sexton Scandia Mn. USA View (/petition- Apr 11, 2017 comment.php? cid=21260461) 2 Anonymous Scandia Mn. Washington USA N/G Apr 11, 2017 county 1 Ross Brunfelt N/G N/G N/G N/G Apr 10, 2017 No close, who owns Log House Now ? Keep the landing open!! I am against closing the log house landing to exclude boat trailers. Shutting this landing down will pretty much cut off access to many of the best fishing and camping areas during the summer months when when water levels are low. Horrible idea to even consider shutting down this historic landing. Please reconsider, Lived in scandia for many years! Would hate to see this happen. Been using this launch to access the river for fishing and hunting for 20+ years. Would be a shame to ruin the tradition I have been there and I want it kept as a landmark of the swedish'influence in Scandia"s history. I use it all the time. Leave it alone I use the landing lent in the summer and dont want to buy a park pass or drive to osceola to Put my boat in. I grew up with this boat launch and this gem needs to stay open. If it closes because of the greedy home owners along that stretch it will be a great social injustice! If we give it up we'll never get it back. If any thing fix up the landing Some may have seen my letter sent to the City Council. They need to make decisions that will affect the ma"ority. The landing has existed forever with minimal care and can continue to do so, if some of our local politicians would think a little. This landing is a prefect example of "rural integrity My family has used this launch the last 15 years. It is 5 minutes from where my dad's house is and is a great launch for us who only go north on the river. Leave it alone Maybe some erosion control at the base. Remember the landing was donated for that use. It was there first. If a neighbor/neighbors have an issue with traffic or noise, they shouldn't have moved next to a public landing? It has been there for a very long time and I hope it stays for a lot longer. Please please please don't close this landing. I know several people who use it all the time in the summer and it is the perfect canoe float from Co as to Marine. Please! Leave it the way it is. How else would one get a boat onto the river, if one did not bring it on a trailer to this landing? There are hardly any places to put a boat into the river around here. I grew up here, my family owns a business in marine, I took my senior pictures at this landing_ This has been a staple in this community and it should stay that way. Leave it OPEN! Let othereq nerations enjoy it just like we did ALL OUR LIVES.... There are too few accesses on the St Croix as it is. Another example of locals trying to kick other people off public water by removing accesses. Please for the love of qod(s) do not qet rid of this public landinq. It is already public don't **s it up by closing it what rich asshole decided to close this landing?! Who is thinking of the poor bastards who don't have biq fancy boats who use this landing ALL THE DAMN TIME like my self?! It was be a qreat travesty to loose this valuable river access point. It_would be god damned disgrace to let some **s sticks close this fantastic landing. We will not tolerate this. I enjoy fishing in that area and if that landing was not there the area would be to far away to get there because you can not travel fast throuqh that part of the river I would be haimv if thev kept this boat landing the wav it is. I use it quite often in the summer and would severely miss it if the landinq disappeared. I use this access every year to go on fishing and kayaking trips with my family. It's a nice area because you don't run into biq_boats given the limited access Keep as is or do little changes for the water erosion into the river to keep the water cleaner as of concrete Ramps only for the landing to keep the Croix water cleaner. For those of us who have smaller boats this is the easiest and safest way to get access to the river. We need more options not fess_! I believe that log house landing shouldn't be tampered with. It has been a good fishing spot for friends and I and there is no good reason it should stop beinq just that. Thank you This is great access for those that do not have access to get on to river. Do not shut it down. Do not close off the landing Don't be evil. There is limited access to the river. This landinq has been around longer than those that live around the landing. It is unimproved and only small boats are launched. This saddens me quite a bit, don't close the launch just to sell the property. There are plenty of people that still use the launch and it's a good escape from the speed boats ripping around all dav, If were nninn to nay extra money for our fishing license. the least they can do is preserve our water accesses. Please keep the landing open. This place is a great place for sports men whether it be boating -or ka akers on the historic St. Croix. Please keep it open. Please do not close this river access, there are only a few access points on the st. Croix river, each vear rules and rea_ula_tions aet stricter and stricter, at least aive us an access point to eniov the st. Croix river. We need all the access we can aet to the river. there is no reason to close this and or even upgrade this use a go fund me page if the city is short of funds I use this boat launch freauentiv and would volunteer to help stop the erosion I use this launch a lot. I'd hate to see it go especially with such good fishing spots not far from the launch, it would make it a hassle going up to Osceola and go down stream just to get towards that general area for fishing. Please keep the launch! I love this boat launch Please do not close this launch! Keep it natural! Keep this launch open !!! Save our fishing spots! I have friends and family that love to hit it up, it's a great place. Let's leave well enough alone! You can't close Copas. This is where I've qone all my life and I want to bring my kids too. Save boat landing My kids and I use this launch regularly it would be horrible if it closed Save the launch Don't do it. Keep it open. Fix it Keep the Scandia landing open please. I use this boat launch for my canoe trips reaularlv in the summer. Please. keep it open. PLEASE LEAVE THIS ALONE SO THAT THE YOUNGER GENERATION CAN HAVE A PLACE TO GO There's very little river access or places to launch in that area, and the St Croix is a truly beautiful river. There has to be some way to divert funds from more frivolous things to save it. I've been usina this launch since the earlv 70s with my dad fished from the shores there and many memories there this should not be closed thanks Please do not close this public access . Save the landing Please keep this launch open! Do not close this landing! Use for small boat Please don't get tid of this! Please don't close and please fix Born and raised in Scandia. Vital part of the communitv and river. I traveled to Minnesota and fished this spot 2 years a o. We need access to the river! Dont close water access.. leave it as is Perfect launch location for duck hunters other launch is William obrien and you have to pay let our dollars be valued!!! Should be open to all to enjoy. Why on earth do keep messing with this site? My grandparents own the property lust the other side of the stream there . Great little place to get out and enjoy a nice niqht. Neighbors need to access the river, part of why we live here in Scandia and commute to the city for work. My son's used this landing as bovs and they continue to use and eniov this Landina as adult men. I also believe this landing is important to our property values_ I have been on this access several times. It is the perfect spot to put in riaht after the cities of stillwater or riqht before you get to far into wisconsin. This is an easy access for canoers kayakers group activities and solo adventurers. Closinq this access would push for more publicity at the laraer access points where bia boats and anglers like to put in. This is a horrible idea to close this I understand that the erosion problem on the hili leading down to the landing proper is getting pretty bad, especially in recent years, But there should be a solution that doesn't involve closing our closest and most convenient landina, This is a very popular spot for manv analers and river lovers alike. A little maintenance is needed but the landing should stay open. I believe this PUblic boat ramp should remain a public arnmenity, and the way in which it is utilized should remain the same. Chanaina the desiqnation to "carry in only" would be doing a hu e disservice to all of the sportsmen and women who currently use this launch to access the river because of its convenient location. Doinq away with this launch makes absoluteIV no sense at all as it has been utilized for manv vears iust the way it is and has provided access to this oilion of the river for countless individuals who's interests in the river vary greatly. What I'm saying is that this needs to remain a place for all interests and user groups and if it is changed to carrV in access, there is going to be a hue number of angry citizens who have been using this their entire lives. Keep it restore and update the launch site