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March 5, 2013
The Scandia Planning Commission held their regular monthly meeting on the above date. Chair
Christine Maefsky called the meeting to order at 7:03 p.m. The following were in attendance:
Commissioners Jan Hogle, Steve Philippi, Peter Schwarz and Commission Chair Christine
Maefsky. Staff present: City Administrator Kristina Handt, City Planner Sherri Buss, and
Treasurer Colleen Firkus.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA, MINUTES
Philippi,seconded by Hogle, moved to approve the agenda as presented. The motion
carried 4-0.
Schwarz, seconded by Hogle, moved to approve the February 13, 2013 minutes as
presented. The motion carried 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE FROM THE REQUIRED ROAD FRONTAGE AND
LOT WIDTH TO ALLOW THE CREATION OF TWO LOTS AT 14925 OAKHILL
ROAD N. MARY LOUISE SIMONSON, APPLICANT.
The applicant is proposing to subdivide an existing 30.8-acre parcel to create two parcels, 4.95
acres and 25.87 acres each in size at 14925 Oakhill Road. The lots are indentified as Lot 1 and
Outlot A. The applicant is requesting a variance from roadway frontage (300 to 208 ft.) for
Outlot A. Both lots require a variance for lot width in the Shoreland Overlay District as they
border DNR Protected Wetland 82-66W, a Natural Environment Lake.
At the Planner's recommendation, the surveyor, Bill Selb of Landmark Surveying, said they can
adjust the lot line to meet the minimum 5.0-acre requirement for Lot l, which has an existing
house and outbuildings that meet all the setbacks. Road frontage would be 450 feet on Lot 1.
Between the two lots there is 652 feet of road frontage on Oakhill. The County would like more
right-of-way on new developments on County roads, but since this is not a development, they
don't feel they can ask for more than the existing 66 feet. However, the Planner suggests a
Development Agreement be required that indicates future right-of-way be granted to the County
if the property becomes developed.
Outlot A would be about 25 acres and have 1.8 contiguous buildable acres in the back of the lot.
There is a '/z acre field bordering Oakhill Road that may or not may not buildable, depending on
setbacks and septic suitability. Also, since there are no plans to develop Outlot A, the
Development Agreement should require a Park Dedication fee should it become developed.
Lot Width is difficult to meet due the existing structures on Lot 1 and the extensive wetland.
Trying to make the lot lines meet lot width would create other code problems with irregular lot
lines and losing the buildable area on one lot. Since no new driveways are being added, the spirit
of the code is being met on lot width.
Chair Maefsky opened the public hearing.
Bill Selb, La�dmark Surveyirrg, Scarrdia, indicated the minimum lot size could be met on Lot 1
by moving the lot line 6 feet. Outlot A is going to Ms. Simonson's daughter, Laurie Holton.
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Commissioner Schwarz asked where the OHW mark was on the survey. Mr. Selb stated it was
not on there, but would need to be delineated by the DNR if Outlot A were developed.
Laurie & Chris Holtorr, Harris, stated they have a home in Harris and have no intention of
building on Outlot A.
Ray Richardson, owns the land adjoining the west border of Outlot A and sees no harm in the
subdivision and is not opposed to it.
There were no other comments and Chair Maefsky closed the hearing .
Commission Chair Maefsky requested the wording"at this time" be added to #3 under Further
Be Resolved, on the resolution to make it consistent with the following statements.
Schwarz, seconded by Philippi, moved to recommend the City Council adopt Resolution
No. 3-05-13-01 with the discussed amendment. The motion carried 4-0.
APPOINT CHAIR & VICE CHAIR FOR 2013
Schwarz, seconded by Philipni, moved to nominate Maefsky as Chair of the Planning
Commission for 2013 and Hogle as Vice Chair. The motion carried 4-0
CONTINUANCE OF VARIANCES FOR BRYAN AND KAREN CRANE
The Cranes reduced the size of the house by 333 sq. ft. and the deck by 500 sq. ft. The
impervious surface of the driveway is proposed to be reduced by putting in four cement tracks 8
inches wide. They also took off the entry walk and stairway. All the changes reduce the lot
coverage to 2625 sq. ft. which meets the 25%allowed. The setback from the OHW mark from
the lake is approximately 37 feet and 28 feet from the road right-of-way of Layton Ave.
The Planner reported that the Watershed District is okay with the driveway strips, but would
require a minimum of 4 inches of topsoil planted with grass and a base of 8 inches of sand
between the strips. It was suggested to oversize the rain gardens to compensate for any
compaction of the driveway strips over time. The Watershed will oversee installation of the
driveway. Lot coverage would be 28.8% if the entire driveway were counted. Mr. Crane also
pointed out the deck width is 13'10" not the 14' shown on the plan.
Ho�le, seconded bv Schwarz, moved to recommend the City Council approve Resolution
No. 3-05-13-02 approvin� the variances for Lot Size and Setbacks, but not for Lot
Coverage with the amendment of Number 4 to mention the reduced deck size on a revised
plan. The motion nassed 4-0.
CONTINUANCE OF DISCUSSION OF STEPHAN'S EVENT CENTER
The City Council referred the discussion of�changes to the Ordinances and/or Comprehensive
Plan back to the Planning Commission instead of creating a committee. Concerned neighbars
and citizens were invited to attend the Planning Commission meetings where such discussion
would occur. Maefsky expressed her disappointment that the Council did not see the value of a
committee as she sees it as a bringing together of the community to study and learn about an
issue that could have great impact on the community. Planner Buss suggested the city advertise
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to invite participation at Planning Commission meetings where this will be discussed.
Commissioner Schwarz said he thought allowing an expanded definition of"AgriTourism"
would require an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan and MET Council approval. Schwarz
stated the issue is broader than just Mr. Stephen's request and listed the following items as some
concerns that would need discussion by a committee: size of property, dust control & parking,
lengths of events and dates allowed, hours of operation, emergency vehicle access, public safety
(police presence required?), sanitation & cleanup, amplified sound, vendors, insurance &
liability, city permits/licenses —by event or yearly (not a CUP), types of events: weddings,
mazes, fairs, and two-three property owners combining for a larger event.
Maefsky noted that Stillwater decided to limit what was allowed. However, Chisago County
initially denied a request for cross-country skiing/canoe rentals, but then endorsed "Rural Retail
Tourism."' Philippi asked if running a commercial venture on AG land will increase the property
taxes. Buss said she would ask the County Assessor. Maefsky questioned if "AgriTourism"
would be allowed on non-AG rural land, or non-AG uses on AG land. Buss mentioned that city
codes allow some uses with a CUP, but there are no performance standards outlined for those
uses. The Planning Commission consensus was that allowing such uses would constitute a major
change to the code and Comprehensive Plan. It was agreed to bring the discussion to the next
Planning Commission meeting and invite interested parties as well as putting notices on the
website and newspapers.
Council members Ness and Lee were present in the audience. Ness volunteered to serve on a
committee and bring it back before the Council. Lee said it appears to be a sensitive issue and
would need deeper involvement and discussion involving the community. Administrator Handt
reminded the Commission that more meetings will have a financial impact in paying the Planner
and a recording secretary. However, since there is no formal application from Mr. Stephan, the
Commission is under no time constraints and could discuss at regularly scheduled meetings.
Sue and Larry Bies, neighbors to Mr. Stephan, brought up their long standing concerns they have
had with Mr. Stephan and are adamantly opposed to increasing traffic on their cul-de-sac. Mr.
Bies also asked to add alcohol consumption to the list of concerns raised by Schwarz.
ADJOURNMENT
Schwarz, seconded by Hogle, moved to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried 4-0.
The meeting adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Colleen Firkus
Treasurer
File No. . V� 3 (7 n $
APPLICATION FOR PLANNING AND ZONING REQUEST
City of Scandia, Minnesota
14727 209th Street North,Scandia,MN 55073
Phone 651/433-2274 Fax 651/433-5112 Web http://www.ci.scandia.mn.us
Please read before completing: The City will not begin processing an application that is incomplete. Detailed submission
requirements may be found in the Scandia Development Code,available at the City office and website(www.ci.scandia.mn.us)and in
the chccklist forms for the particular type of application. Application fees are due at the time of application and are not refundable.
1. Property Location: (street address, f applicable)
2. Washington County Parcel ID:
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6. Requested Action(s): (check all that apply)
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Conditional Usc Permit(CiJP) _ Site Plan Review
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CUP/Open Space Subdivision. — Site Plan Modification _ Subdivision,Prelirninary Plat/Major
CUP/Planned Unit Development — Site Plan Extension _ Subdivision,Final Plat
Interim Use Permit(ILJP) _ Sign(Permanent) _ Environmental Review
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7. Brief Description of Request: (attach separate sheet if necessary)
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I hereby apply for consideration of the above described request and declare that the information and materials submitted
with this application are complete and accurate. I understand that no application shall be considered complete unless
accompanied by fees as required by city ordinance. Applications for projects requiring more than one type of review
shall include the cumulative total of all application fees specified for each type of review. I understand that applicants
are required to reimburse the city for all out-of-pocket costs incurred for processing,reviewing and hearing the
application.These costs shall include,but are not limited to:parce] searches;publication and mailing of notices;review
by the city's engineering,planning and other consultants;legal costs,and recording fees. An escrow deposit to cover
these costs will be collected by the city at the time of application. The minimum escrow deposit sha11 be cumularive total
of all minimum escrow deposits for each type of review required for the project,unless reduced as provided for by
ordinance. The city may increase the amount of the reyuired escrow deposit at any time if the city's costs are reasonably
expected to exceed the minimum amount. Any balance rernaining after review is complete will be refunded to the
applicant. No interest is paid on escrow deposits.
PLEASE NOTE: If the fee owner is not the applicant,the applicant must provide written suthorization by the fee
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Property Fee Owner Signature(s) Date:
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