8.b Draft minutes 04-06-2021 Planning Commission
April 6, 2021
The Scandia Planning Commission held their regular monthly meeting on the above date with
modifications. Due to the health advisory issued by the State regarding the COVID-19 outbreak,
to avoid public gatherings and limit social contact, the meeting was conducted over an electronic
platform. All Planning Commissioners, staff, and participants who joined the meeting remotely
could hear each other and contribute to discussions. City Administrator Cammilleri and City
Clerk Eklund were present at City Hall. Cammilleri was the presenter and displayed the meeting
materials for participants to view on their remote screens.
Chair Travis Loeffler called the meeting to order at 6:07 p.m. The following were participants to
the meeting: Commissioners Greg Amundson, Jan Hogle, Perry Rynders, Dan Squyres and Chair
Travis Loeffler. Staff present: City Planner Evan Monson, City Administrator Ken Cammilleri,
City Clerk Brenda Eklund. Council member Jerry Cusick was also present.
PUBLIC FORUM
Nancy Frank, 14662 197th Street Court, stated that she would like to educate the community on
the negative effects lighting can have on the environment, and to raise awareness for making
better lighting choices based on this knowledge, leading to the enjoyment of the beauty of
Scandia. Ms. Frank said she would volunteer her efforts on this topic, and also provided a link to
the International Dark Skies Association policy measures which she believed the Planning
Commission could be effective in addressing. Chair Loeffler asked staff to invite Ms. Frank to
future discussions on this topic when applicable.
Chris Johnson, Scandia, also spoke on the importance of dark skies policies, and how light
pollution impairs migrating birds and nocturnal animals. Mr. Johnson said there are ordinances
available to guide policies on best practices for the benefit of the environment.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA, MINUTES
Rynders, second by Amundson, moved to approve the agenda as presented. Motion
unanimously carried by roll call vote.
Rynders, second by Amundson, moved to approve the March 2, 2021 minutes as presented.
Motion unanimously carried by roll call vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE AT 13160 182ND STREET NORTH. TIM BONCHER,
APPLICANT ON BEHALF OF PROPERTY OWNERS JAMES AND DANA TONREY.
PC RESOLUTION NO. 2021-02
Tim Boncher has applied for a variance to construct a single-family home on a vacant 1.48-acre
parcel at 13160 182nd Street located on the south shore of Big Marine Lake. A variance from the
minimum lot size of 2.5 acres is needed for this property within the Shoreland Overlay District.
The proposed house and septic system will be built within all the buildable setbacks of the
property.
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Planner Monson summarized the staff report which noted that the portions of the proposed house
will be built on a slope of 12% or greater. This requires additional review by the City Engineer to
ensure adequate measures are taken to prevent soil erosion, sedimentation, and potential
structural damage. City Engineer Goodman’s comments were provided in the staff report,
including the requirements of Watershed, grading, and driveway permits. The site must be
graded to discharge water towards the lake.
Planner Monson concluded with a recommendation of approval with findings that meet the
criteria of approving a variance, as written into a resolution with six conditions.
Chair Loeffler opened the public hearing at 6:22 p.m.
Tim Boncher, applicant, said he had nothing to add and would answer any questions.
There were no further comments and Chair Loeffler closed the hearing at 6:24 p.m.
Commissioner Rynders questioned if the house is being built too close to the bluff. Staff
explained that the grade of the slope does not trigger the definition of a bluff, and there will be
no infringement into a bluff impact zone. Administrator Cammilleri explained that the City
Engineer completed a diligent review of the survey to confirm compliance with the development
code’s definition of slopes and bluffs.
Amundson, second by Rynders, moved to adopt PC Resolution No. 2021-02, Approving a
Variance for 13160 182nd Street North. The motion carried 5-0 by roll call vote.
The recommendation to approve the variance will be presented to the City Council at their
meeting on April 20, 2021.
PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCES TO ALTER AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING
STRUCTURE AT 20033 QUINNELL AVENUE NORTH. CRAIG SMITH AND
MERRITT CLAPP-SMITH, APPLICANTS. PC RESOLUTION NO. 2021-03
Craig Smith and Merritt Clapp-Smith are proposing to fix up and add a loft to an existing cabin
on their property at 20033 Quinnell Avenue North, located along the St. Croix River. The cabin
is fully located on a bluff, built before adoption of the current rules, and is a nonconforming
structure. The proposed project would raise the roofline of the cabin and needs a variance based
on adopted Chapter 5 of the Washington County Development Code, the Lower St. Croix River
Bluffland and Shoreland Management Regulations. Since the cabin is nonconforming to the
bluffline setback and is permitted as an accessory dwelling unit (a primary house exists on the
property), the project also triggers a variance from the City’s development code.
Planner Monson explained details of the request as provided in the staff report, and noted that the
National Park Service did not have any issues with the request. The Watershed District will
require conformance with rules for erosion control and buffers. Monson concluded with a
recommendation of approval based on findings of meeting criteria for variance requests. The
request will allow the owners to use the cabin in the winter and would not be out of character of
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the area; the raised roofline would not impact scenic views from the river. A resolution based on
these findings and six conditions of approval was prepared.
Chair Loeffler opened the public hearing at 6:41 p.m.
Merritt Clapp-Smith, applicant, explained that they will be adding 8’ to the side of the cabin
where the ground is level, adding loft space and making it occupiable for the winter. The primary
house on the property is not heated. The improvements will allow them to stay on the property
over the winter season.
Benjamin Lewis, neighbor, said he is totally supportive of the request.
There were no further comments and Chair Loeffler closed the hearing at 6:43 p.m.
Commissioner Rynders said it is a reasonable approach to make improvements to the cabin and
had no concerns. Commissioner Amundson agreed, saying the plans are simple and
straightforward.
Commissioner Hogle noted that they must ensure that the existing foundation is solid. Clapp-
Smith said that their intention is to change the foundation as little as possible to minimize soil
disturbance, but will make improvements as needed. An informal review with the Building
Official last year found no immediate concerns. Administrator Cammilleri explained that the
foundation will be reviewed before releasing the building permit.
Amundson, second by Rynders, moved to adopt PC Resolution No. 2021-03, Approving
Variances for 20033 Quinnell Avenue North. The motion carried 5-0 by roll call vote.
The recommendation to approve the variances will be presented to the City Council at their
meeting on April 20, 2021.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A RURAL EVENT CENTER
AT 20168 ST. CROIX TRAIL NORTH; AN AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND
USE MAP OF THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; AND AN AMENDMENT TO THE
DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW ‘RURAL EVENT FACILITY’ LAND USES IN
THE RURAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. GREG AND ANDREA
SANDAGER, APPLICANTS. PC RESOLUTION NO. 2021-04
Greg and Andrea Sandager have applied for a Conditional Use Permit to operate a Rural Event
Facility at their existing winery location at 20168 St. Croix Trail, a permitted use on the property
which is zoned Agriculture Core (AG C). The winery operates on three separate parcels totaling
approximately 80 acres.
Planner Monson provided details of the request. The applicants propose to build a wedding
venue/event space to the west of the current tasting room, to accommodate up to 290 guests, with
the average event size expected to be 150 guests. They plan on hosting between 70 to 100 events
per year. The Sandagers also applied for a request to rezone the property to the Rural
Commercial zoning district as that classification better fits the current needs and use of the
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winery business, with future plans to add a microbrewery use to the property. It was noted that
the adjoining land at Abrahamson’s Nursery is already zoned Rural Commercial (R COMM).
Planner Monson explained that there is a process to rezone property, the first being to amend the
future land use map in the 2040 Comp Plan, also needing approval by the Met Council. As well,
the development code would need to be amended to allow Rural Event Facilities in the R Comm
zoning district. Monson explained that the Rural Event Center use is appropriate in R Comm
districts, as it is a commercial use that is intended to support the rural and historic character of
the City and is compatible with Scandia’s rural character. The 2040 Comprehensive Plan
supports expansion of local businesses and agricultural operations. There is a limited amount of
land zoned R Comm, so adding this use to it would not open up much more of the city to be used
for Rural Event Facilities. Staff recommended the use be permitted through a CUP in the R
Comm District. Monson concluded with approval for a CUP for an event center at this property
with findings and conditions prepared in a resolution.
Chair Loeffler opened the public hearing at 6:58 p.m.
Debra Pribyl, 20286 St. Croix Trail, said she was shocked to hear of the request, and strongly
opposed to expansion of the winery, saying it does not fit the 2040 Comp Plan and is not keeping
with the rural character of Scandia. The winery is fine, but adding an event center is operating a
high traffic commercial business that will contribute problems with lighting, noise and traffic.
Ms. Pribyl said that Redeemed Farm causes problems with the neighbors, and an event center
will impact surrounding property values. She said the City should work for the residents and not
for one business. It seems an improper practice to provide a decision to approve a CUP before
the Commissioners discuss it; approval should not exist before a vote.
Chair Loeffler explained that resolutions are provided by staff’s recommendation.
Greg and Andrea Sandager, applicants, said they acknowledge the concerns of the neighbors and
do not wish to cause any harm, and will do their best to make the proposed event center work
with the least impacts.
There were no further comments and Chair Loeffler closed the hearing at 7:04 p.m.
Chair Loeffler read written comments from:
1) Roger Harvieux, 20258 St. Croix Trail, who objects to the increase in traffic and noise, and
that an event center is in conflict with the Comp Plan.
2) John Moszer, 15995 Quality Trail, who wrote he is absolutely opposed, and the use will
generate noise.
3) Debra and Joe Pribyl, 20286 St. Croix Trail, who wrote in opposition and made verbal
comments during the public hearing.
The Commissioners began discussion on the Rural Event Facility proposal.
Commissioner Squyres stated his view that it’s incorrect to say a rural event facility is against the
comp plan, as the plan encourages ag based businesses to operate, and it’s actually in alignment
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with the comp plan. Planner Monson noted that the comp plan does promote this type of
commercial activity to showcase rural character, and an appropriate use of the property as
opposed to a gas station or big box store. Squyres said that the winery is an ag business
endeavor, and adding an event center to an existing farm is an extension of the ag use of the land.
Regarding traffic, Squyres said that State Highway 95 can handle this, and it is MnDOT’s
responsibility to make any traffic recommendations. The staff report indicated that MnDOT had
been notified of the proposal without a response.
Commissioner Hogle stated that rural event facilities do seem to fit into RComm zoning, and is
completely consistent with discussion on event facilities that have taken place over the past
years. Commissioner Amundson said that this proposal for an event center fits into Scandia’s
vision of rural businesses.
Chair Loeffler asked if the CUP for this event center will have the same expectations as
Redeemed Farm. Planner Monson said yes, the existing standards from the ordinance on rural
event facilities concerning number of guests and events, time, lighting, noise, ceasing by 10 pm,
and other requirements from the ordinance are all conditions of the CUP. Loeffler stated that the
City worked hard to create expectations for Rural Event Facilities to minimize impacts, and he is
confident that the applicants are doing all they can to have as little impact as possible.
Commissioner Rynders noted that the concerns of the neighbors should be acknowledged, and he
empathizes with them in their disappointment. Chair Loeffler agreed, and said the operators are
held to the conditions of the CUP; the neighbors should bring any concerns to the City to be
addressed. Planner Monson noted that it is a balancing act to consider the neighbors and the
allowed uses for property owners. Additional conditions can be added to the permit to mitigate
any issues that arise.
Commissioner Amundson said he lives near the winery and has not noticed any significant
increases to traffic since the opening.
Squyres, second by Amundson, moved to approve a Conditional Use Permit to operate a
Rural Event Facility for Rustic Roots Winery at 20168 St. Croix Trail, with conditions as
recommended by the Planner (findings and conditions of Resolution No. 2021-04).
The recommendation to approve the CUP will be presented to the City Council at their meeting
on April 20, 2021.
The Commissioners went into discussion of amending the development code to allow Rural
Event Facilities as a permitted use in Rural Commercial zoning districts.
Planner Monson directed the Commission to page 3 of the staff report which described the
purpose of the RComm district, which uses reflect the historic nature of the community and to be
compatible with the surrounding rural character. Monson recommended this be used as a guide
to the appropriateness to rezone the property as requested by the Sandagers. Commissioner
Rynders stated that the use of an event center does fit a RComm district and is consistent with
these criteria. Commissioners Amundson and Squyres agreed, with Squyres stating that a rural
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event facility would fit into existing properties zoned as RComm (Big Marine Store, Hwy 95/97
corner, Crabtrees and Abrahamsons).
Amundson, second by Squyres, moved to recommend that Rural Event Facilities be added
as a permitted use with a Conditional Use Permit to the Rural Commercial zoning district.
Motion carried 5-0 by a roll call vote.
A draft ordinance to amend the development code to add Rural Event Facilities as a permitted
use in the Rural Commercial zoning district was provided in the meeting packet. The
recommendation will be presented to the City Council on April 20, 2021.
The discussion moved into the applicant’s request to re-zone their property from Ag Core to
Rural Commercial. Administrator Cammilleri explained that first the City must first change the
future land use map in the 2040 Comp Plan, then consider an acceptable rezoning text
amendment.
Commissioner Squyres said he is strongly hesitant to change the zoning of the 80-acre property,
which is outside the downtown area where the Comp Plan focuses growth to. A rezone would
completely change what is allowed here should there be a future sale of the property. A decision
on zoning shouldn’t be based on the current owner, but consideration of future uses. Squyres said
the land use map and Comp Plan was discussed at length before adoption, and was established as
the guiding document. Why should the City decide to change it already? Commissioner Rynders
said he echoes these concerns – the three parcels owned by the Sandagers total a large 80-acre
property.
The existing allowed uses in the RComm district were described – retail stores, restaurant,
service station, hotel, were some of the permitted uses. Commissioner Squyres said the RComm
District was applied to historic businesses outside the Village Center in order to zone the existing
businesses correctly, such as the Big Marine General Store on Manning Trail. Administrator
Cammilleri noted that “Rural” makes it different from only a commercial district, and suggested
there could be enhanced language to clarify the intensity of business which the Commissioners
would be comfortable with. Rural character language provides for the ability to interpret the
comp plan and deny what is not desired in this zoning district.
Chair Loeffler said that the Commission should offer rationale to the Council regarding a
decision to not change zoning, suggesting a better description of the RComm district is needed.
Commissioner Squyres agreed the RComm district should be revamped with a clearer definition
and more detail. He also reasoned that people consider zoning when choosing where to live, and
it would be a big change to the neighborhood to change a zoning district of a nearby property.
Planner Monson stated that the applicant’s future intention to operate a craft brewery would not
be a permitted use in the current Ag Core zoning of the property.
Squyres, second by Rynders, moved to not change zoning in the 2040 Comp Plan Future
Land Use Map with findings that the current R COMM allowed uses are not strict enough
and could cause potential problems in the surrounding neighborhood; the addition of more
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R COMM zoned areas is not in keeping with the principles of R COMM zoning. By roll call
vote, the motion carried 4-0, with Amundson abstaining.
Greg Sandager questioned how to correct the zoning of their property that is attached to
Abrahamson’s business which crosses west of Highway 95 onto the winery property. Part is
zoned R Comm and part zoned General Rural on the west side of the highway. Administrator
Cammilleri stated that it is not common or proper to have one property in two different zoning
districts. This past error/oversight on the zoning map can only be corrected by the Planning
Commission and City Council.
Rynders, second by Amundson, moved to call for a public hearing to amend the future land
use map to correct a 10-acre area mis-zoned on the west side of Highway 95 (Parcel ID
Number 19.032.19.33.0005) from General Rural to Rural Commercial. By roll call vote, the
motion carried 4-1 with Loeffler opposed.
A public hearing to amend the zoning map will be scheduled for May 4, 2021.
PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE TO ALTER AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING
STRUCTURE AT 16970 197TH STREET NORTH. MARK HOLLOWAY, APPLICANT
ON BEHALF OF PROPERTY OWNER NANCY STAUB. PC RESOLUTION NO. 2021-
05
Mark Holloway, contractor on behalf of property owner Nancy Staub, is seeking to remodel an
existing house at 16970 197th Street North, located along the St. Croix River. The house was
built before existing zoning rules and does not meet current setbacks making it a non-conforming
structure. The scope of the work will all be interior within the structure, with the project costs
exceeding 50% of the value of the current house, triggering the ordinance requirement that a
variance is necessary.
Planner Monson summarized the staff report. The Watershed, DNR and National Park Service
had no concerns with the request. The request is reasonable and in harmony with the Comp Plan.
Monson recommended approval with findings and two conditions written into a resolution.
Chair Loeffler opened the public hearing at 8:17 p.m.
Nancy Staub, owner, thanked the Commission for their site visit and dedication.
Mark Holloway, contractor, stated that Ms. Staub is a good steward of the St. Croix community,
and this simple project will improve her house and provide long-term sustainability of the home
along the river.
There were no other comments and Chair Loeffler closed the hearing at 8:19 p.m.
Chair Loeffler said that the 50% threshold to require a variance is not always reasonable. In this
case the improvements are all inside the home and the owner is burdened with the extra time and
costs of a variance. Commissioner Amundson agreed. Administrator Cammilleri explained the
that the ordinance is vague on renovations and remodeling; there are practical reasons to make
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existing structures more habitable and the ordinance does serve a purpose in most cases.
Commissioner Rynders recommended a change to the criteria for minor improvements such as
those being done at this cabin.
Commissioner Squyres asked if other surrounding parcels are owned by Ms. Staub. Ms. Staub
said there are four contiguous parcels that she would combine into one parcel, which would total
close to 2-acres. Squyres recommended a condition be added to the resolution that the four
separate parcels will be combined into one.
Amundson, second by Squyres, moved to adopt PC Resolution No. 2021-05, Approving a
Variance for 16970 197th Street North. Motion carried 5-0 by roll call vote.
The recommendation to approve the variance will be presented to the City Council at their
meeting on April 20, 2021.
PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF SCANDIA DEVELOPMENT
CODE
Based on discussion at the March 2nd meeting, Planner Monson prepared a draft ordinance to
amend the following sections of the City’s Development Code:
a) Accessory Structures. Chapter 2, Section 3.2
b) Government Land Uses. Chapter 1, Section 4.2 Definitions; and Chapter 2,
Allowed Uses in the VMU A and VMU B zoning districts
c) Building Types and Materials. Chapter 2, Section 3.14
d) Signs. Chapter 2, Section 3.13
a) Administrator Cammilleri clarified that the only change being made to the accessory structure
ordinance is to revise the exception to structural size and number limits of the chart (Ch. 2. Sec.
3.2. (3) b.). The new text would read:
* If the property has no attached garage, one detached garage up to 24’x 36’ in size is permitted
in addition to the number of accessory structures listed in Section (C) above. This exception is
intended to permit a garage only, and the square footage of the garage may not be added to the
number or square footage of accessory structures that are permitted on the property by the table
above. For residential accessory structures, the total allowed number of accessory structures in
the table above is in addition to one garage up to 864 square feet, whether attached or detached.
For lots on which one garage already exists, whether attached or detached, the placement of a
second garage shall count toward the accessory structure limit in the table above. The total area
of structures including the garage shall meet the lot coverage requirements. The property owner
must demonstrate that there is adequate space available on the parcel for a primary and
secondary septic system that meet Washington County SSTS ordinance requirements outside the
area proposed for the garage.
Cammilleri explained that it’s a universal standard to define garages as accessory structures,
whether attached or detached. This language would prevent a huge attached garage being built
beyond the limits of the property’s size. Commissioner Rynders said he doesn’t care how big a
garage is if it’s attached to the house. Commissioner Squyres said without this limit, it could
become problematic especially on smaller lots. Cammilleri stated that the development conde
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really needs an accessory ordinance based on zoning districts, something being considered for
the development code rewrite project.
b) Regarding amendments to Government Land Uses, the Community Center’s use was not
permitted as the existing code is written. This amendment will make the use of the Community
Center conforming, and the future Arts & Heritage Center an allowable, permissible use as well.
c) Amendments to the Building Types and Materials section will correct inconsistencies and help
bolster the language that unfinished sheet metal buildings are not allowed on small, residential
lots; and also reference the Architectural Design Guidelines.
d) Amendments to the Sign ordinance will allow parks and cemeteries to be eligible for sign
permits. Institutional Use will be an added definition in Chapter 1.
Chair Loeffler opened the public hearing at 9:00 p.m. There were no comments and the hearing
was closed.
Amundson, second by Squyres, moved to recommend approval of the amendments to the
Development Code, as amended by staff regarding accessory structures. By roll call vote,
the motion carried 3-1, with Rynders opposed. Hogle did not vote due to a dropped internet
connection due to weather.
UPDATE ON VARIANCE TO ALTER AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING
STRUCTURE AT 12970 236TH STREET NORTH. MICHAEL WESTBERG,
APPLICANT. CONTINUED FROM THE MARCH 2, 2021 MEETING
Planner Monson explained that applicant Michael Westberg has withdrawn his variance request.
A suitable building site that meets all applicable setbacks within the buildable area was
determined for his new single-family dwelling.
DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE CH. 2, SECTION
4.28, TEMPORARY FARM DWELLINGS, STANDARDS FOR USES. CONTINUED
FROM THE MARCH 2, 2021 MEETING.
A public hearing was held on March 2nd for amendments to the Temporary Farm Dwelling
ordinance. Planner Monson presented a draft ordinance based on the Commission’s discussion.
Commissioner Squyres recommended a sentence that a Temporary Farm Dwelling use requires
an Interim Use Permit.
Squyres, second by Rynders, moved to recommend approval of the Temporary Farm
Dwelling as amended with language to clarify that an Interim Use Permit is required. The
motion carried 4-0 by roll call vote. Hogle abstained due to missing the discussion when her
internet connection dropped.
ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS – NEXT MEETING MAY 4, 2021
Chair Loeffler recommended a change to the requirement for a variance when a non-conforming
structure is repaired or renovated at greater than 50% valuation. Staff advised this
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recommendation could be made to the consultants working on the zoning and development code
update.
ADJOURNMENT
Amundson, second by Rynders, moved to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried
unanimously by roll call vote.
The meeting adjourned at 9:27 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brenda Eklund
City Clerk