8.b Draft minutes 05-03-2022 Planning Commission
May 3, 2022
The Scandia Planning Commission held their regular monthly meeting on the above date with
modifications. The meeting was conducted in-person and virtually over an electronic platform.
All participants who joined the meeting remotely could hear each other and contribute to
discussions.
Chair Travis Loeffler called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m. The following were in attendance:
Commissioners Jon Engstrand, Jan Hogle (remote), Kirsten Libby, Perry Rynders, and Chair
Travis Loeffler. Staff participating: City Planner Evan Monson, City Administrator Ken
Cammilleri, City Council member Jerry Cusick, and City Clerk Brenda Eklund.
PUBLIC FORUM
Shaun Holtgreve, 22739 Olgilvie Avenue, stated that he is opposed to a petition to vacate a
public easement terminating at Goose Lake. This petition was presented to the City Council at
their meeting on April 5, 2022.
City Administrator Cammilleri explained that the City Council will hold the public hearing on
the petition at their meeting on June 21, 2022. The Council will determine the next steps based
on their decision to either deny the petition, vacate the easement, or authorize improvements.
Cammilleri stated that no maintenance work is allowed in the city’s 20-foot pedestrian use
easement by anyone not permitted and licensed by the city. Clearing being done by the Goose
Lake Homeowners Association must cease immediately; the easement is strictly for pedestrian
use and motorized vehicles, docks and structures are not allowed. Cammilleri explained that
there is potential liability to the city when the easement is not used properly. The snowmobile
traffic and other vehicles are putting the city at jeopardy. Cammilleri said this is a unique right-
of-way for which the city does not hold underlying title to the land. There is trespassing by
anyone going off the 20-foot-wide easement.
Mr. Holtgreve asked if the city could mark the easement. Cammilleri said there has been no
official authorization for any improvements on the easement, and staff will wait for the Council’s
decision following the public hearing. Cammilleri noted that an amendment to the
comprehensive plan would be needed to develop the easement for recreational use.
Don Baber, president of the Goose Lake Homeowners Association, 22830 Olgilvie Avenue,
said the Association is opposed to the vacation of the easement. Baber said when the lots were
purchased, owners were given the easement information and the Association took it upon
themselves to clean the trail using the necessary equipment. Cammilleri said that the city’s right-
of-way ordinance trumps the language of the Association’s bylaws, making the clearing that is
going on unacceptable. Mr. Baber said the trail cannot be vacated according to the Association
terms of the conservation document. Cammilleri said the easement should have been titled to the
Homeowners Association, but was not and is now in the city’s hands; it’s unknown why the
easement dedication occurred after the final plat and developer’s agreement for the subdivision.
Cammilleri said the conservation document would only be applicable if the legal description is
defined in the document, but the easement was apparently created after final plat recording.
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Mr. Baber concluded by saying he wants to convey to the Planning Commission that vacating the
easement would be bad for the community.
There were no other public comments and Chair Loeffler closed the public forum at 7:25 p.m.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA, MINUTES
Chair Loeffler announced an addition to the agenda: #7) Discuss a recommendation to the City
Council regarding a petition to vacate an easement.
Rynders, second by Engstrand, moved to approve the agenda as amended. Motion carried
unanimously by roll call vote.
Hogle, second by Rynders, moved to approve the April 5, 2022 minutes as presented.
Motion carried unanimously by roll call vote.
DISCUSSION ON THE DRAFT UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND CALL FOR
PUBLIC HEARING
An open house on the Draft Unified Development Code was held on April 11, 2022 in
preparation of a public hearing on the document and updated zoning map.
Rynders, second by Engstrand, moved to schedule the public hearing on the Draft Unified
Development Code for Monday, May 23, 2022 at 7:00 p.m. Motion carried unanimously by
roll call vote.
Commissioner Hogle shared comments and questions on the draft document. Commissioner
Hogle explained that some of the acronyms used in the document should be clarified, and
identified typographical errors to be corrected. The Commissioners were in consensus to accept
the corrections and to forward these corrections to the consultant.
Administrator Cammilleri noted the written comments from Brian and Janet Heller, property
owners at 11090 190th Street, as provided in the meeting packet.
The Commission discussed the comments provided by Brian and Janet Heller.
• 153.200.030 Subd. 1. A. I. c. describes items that can encroach into setback areas.
In all cases the Development Code states the allowed encroachment distance is 3 feet. We
request the space be increased to at least 4 feet, in particular to accommodate accessible ramps.
The Commissioners recommended the code allow encroachment up to 4 feet, and to direct the
consultant to recommend an expanded list of acceptable items that can extend into the setback
area.
• Table 153.2002030-20 Accessory Building Dimensional Standards Table. Hellers
wrote that large lots could support larger numbers and sizes of accessory structures. The
Commissioners agreed that the table could be adjusted upward for properties 5 acres and greater,
and directed the consultant to prepare an adjustment to the table for the public hearing.
• 153.300.030 USE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS, Subd. 1, (II) Wind Energy Conversion
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Systems (WECS). Wind energy conversion systems must comply with the following standards:
II. Rotors may not exceed 26 feet in diameter and must have a clearance of 30 feet over any
tree or structure within the parcel where it is located. Mr. Heller explained this is confusing;
if only a clearance of 30’ is required and elevation is not important then perhaps the word “from”
would be more appropriate than the word “over” in the section above in bold. The
Commissioners agreed that the standard should be clarified.
• 153.400.030 SITE AND BUILDING DESIGN, Subd. 3. Building Type and
Materials. (A) General Standards, III. Finished Building Material for Principal Structures.
For clarification: How does this section relate to exposed (above grade) foundation walls,
primarily poured concrete or concrete block? Do exposed foundation walls need to be covered in
a finish material? Administrator Cammilleri explained that the language applies to structures, not
foundations and the interpretation as worded is correct.
Chair Loeffler left for a fire call at 8:00 p.m. Vice Chair Hogle managed the remainder of the
meeting.
• 153.400.040 CHARACTER AREA STANDARDS, 153.400.040 Subd. 1. B.
I. g. and II. d. Fences. Brian Heller said this seems too restrictive, and is interpreted that chain
link fences are not allowed when they can be viewed from the right-of-way. The draft UDC was
reviewed, and determined that language from the architectural guidelines was merged into the
fence section, and shouldn’t be applicable to residential properties. Staff will work with the
consultant on correcting this section. Cammilleri recommended lowering the allowed height of
residential fences from a 12’ maximum to 6’ to 7’, but allowing an exception for agricultural
fencing.
• A few other items were reviewed for clarity, and no changes were needed. Staff will
check on formatting the tables. Garbage corrals at the end of driveways could be defined as
structures within a setback. Cammilleri stated that garbage corrals are not prohibited, but there
are some inconsistencies with setbacks which could be addressed.
• Hellers asked if language can be added to permit construction of an Accessory Structure
prior to the Primary Structure. A proposal for this would be to allow an accessory structure to be
built prior to the primary structure with the understanding that a primary structure must be
constructed within 36 months of the accessory structure being approved. In their case, they
would like to prepare their building site over the next two years and propose storing the
equipment on the property inside a building. Cammilleri said this is not currently prohibited as
long as there is an active building permit for the primary structure, but asked if flexibility should
be added for certain conditions because the building process can be long. On a related topic,
Cammilleri stated that other possible temporary dwelling units during construction be
considered, and will have the consultant prepare a list of acceptable dwellings for the public
hearing.
• The Hellers concluded that they have been unable to find language in the newly proposed
Unified Development Code that describes the current exception to allow Accessory Structures to
be built closer to the right of way than the Primary Structure on properties greater than 5 acres.
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Cammilleri said he is not sure why this exception is not in the draft, and could think of no reason
it was eliminated. Cammilleri said it could be made a conditional use to keep accessory
structures more flexible, and recommended moving away from variances. Staff recommended
this language be drafted for the public hearing for consideration.
STUDY OF DISTRIBUTION SCALE SOLAR ENERGY SYSTEMS (SOLAR FARM)
ORDINANCE
At their meeting on April 5th, the City Council adopted a temporary ordinance placing a
moratorium on solar farms and directed the Planning Commission to study the current ordinance
for potential changes. The moratorium outlines a scope of what to include in the study, such as:
• The zoning districts in which distribution SES shall be permitted in
• The density and concentration of distribution SES
• Better addressing concerns with screening
• Better understand the effect of distribution SES on other uses and environmental conditions in
surrounding areas
• Appropriate conditional use permit requirements
• Other items, as needed
Planner Monson said it is key to start identifying potential ideas and strategies that could address
the items of study in the moratorium. Administrator Cammilleri added that the Council is
concerned about having more solar farms, and what limitations are appropriate for solar farms.
Commissioner Rynders said it appears there is a public concern about more solar farms; the
wisest approach is to figure out what the public is objected to, and mitigate these concerns.
Rynders said the Commission would benefit to better understand the public objections and
mitigate those that the Council is hearing. Rynders noted that social media sites have complaints
which could be gathered to try to solve these concerns. Administrator Cammilleri suggested a
survey be conducted to understand the concerns.
Commissioner Hogle said she had made a Facebook post on solar farms, and found the primary
objection was the visual impact on the landscape, such as the electrical connections and the
accessories to the panels themselves.
Cammilleri said that the Commission may want to develop options for the council to consider
along the way, such as screening improvements, restricted areas, and other factors to meet their
expectations.
Staff will begin outreach with a community survey, consult with other government agencies for
comments, and compare solar ordinances from other communities. With assistance from Mike
Lubke, the solar capacity map was explained.
Staff announced that the Solar Operator of the Solar Farm at 23703 Oldfield Avenue has invited
city officials to a site visit on May 17, 2022 at 5:30 p.m.
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ADDITION: PETITION TO VACATE AN EASEMENT TERMINATING AT GOOSE
LAKE
Chair Loeffler added a discussion on a recommendation to the Council on the petition to vacate
an easement, but had left the meeting for a fire call at 8:00 p.m. Staff advised that under the
public forum policy, the Commission cannot take formal action on any item not on the agenda,
but the item may be referred to a future meeting for further consideration.
The Commissioners all stated that they are not familiar with the petition issues. Cammilleri
explained that the petition to vacate a right-of-way goes to the City Council, and the Planning
Commission could take action after the Council decision if needed. In this case they could be
involved at the comprehensive plan level.
Cammilleri recommended tabling discussion to a future meeting. Commissioner Rynders agreed,
stating this was not on the published agenda and there may be others not present who would like
to speak on the topic. Cammilleri explained that taking a position is not prohibited, but any
recommendation should be supported by the principles of the comprehensive plan as a
foundation.
Commissioners were in consensus to table a discussion on the petition to vacate a right-of-way to
a future meeting.
FUTURE ITEMS
There is a potential variance application for the meeting on June 7th.
ADJOURNEMENT
Engstrand, second by Libby, moved to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 4-0 by roll call
vote.
The meeting adjourned at 9:07 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brenda Eklund
City Clerk