08.b Draft minutes 11-01-2022 Planning Commission
November 1, 2022
The Scandia Planning Commission held their regular monthly meeting on the above date with
modifications. The meeting was conducted in-person and virtually over an electronic platform.
All participants who joined the meeting remotely could hear each other and contribute to
discussions.
Chair Jan Hogle called the meeting to order at 7:06 p.m. The following were in attendance:
Commissioners Laszlo Fodor, Jan Hogle, Kirsten Libby, Mike Lubke, Perry Rynders. Staff
present: City Planner Evan Monson (virtual), City Administrator Ken Cammilleri, and City Clerk
Brenda Eklund. City Council member Jerry Cusick was also present.
PUBLIC FORUM
There were no public comments.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA, MINUTES
Rynders, second by Libby, moved to approve the agenda as presented. Motion carried
unanimously.
Rynders, second by Fodor, moved to approve the October 4, 2022 minutes as presented.
Motion carried unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCES TO CONSTRUCT A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING
ON A NONCONFORMING LOT, WITH PORTIONS OF THE HOUSE AND SEPTIC
TANKS LOCATED WITHIN WETLAND SETBACKS AT 18558 LANGLY AVENUE
NORTH. RICHARD PAULSEN, APPLICANT. PC RESOLUTION NO. 2022-14
Planner Monson described the variance application from Richard Paulsen to construct a single-
family residence at 18558 Langly Avenue North, located within the Shoreland Overlay of Big
Marine Lake. The 1.04-acre lot is currently vacant, with a Manage 2 wetland at the northeast
corner. The property is defined as legal non-conforming and requires variances to develop the
lot. The house will be built on the south half of the parcel; portions of the house, deck, and
driveway would be located within the required 50’ structure setback from the wetland, and
within the required 75’ setback for the septic tanks.
Planner Monson provided a table describing the proposed variances.
Wetland Setback
Required
Proposed Setback
from wetland
Variance
(Required – Proposed)
House 50’ 29’ 21’
Deck (attached to
house)
50’ 25’6” 25’6”
Concrete Driveway 50’ 44’6” 5’6”
Septic Tanks 75’ 26’6” 48’6
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Comments from the Watershed and City Engineer were documented in the staff report. Planner
Monson explained that the request is being evaluated under the previous development code due
to the timing of the application. Differences were noted, including that a 20’ setback from side
property lines is required under the prior zoning code, now changed in the Unified Development
Code to a 10’ side yard setback.
Planner Monson concluded with a recommendation to approve the variances to develop the lot
with a new residence, with findings and conditions presented in a resolution. Conditions included
that the contiguous parcels under the same ownership be combined into one lot, the applicant
involve the city’s public works staff with plans for the driveway, trench, and culvert work, obtain
applicable Watershed and wetland permits, and require a tree replacement plan and grading
permit.
Chair Hogle summarized the site visit, at which the Commissioners observed the proposed
location of the house and parcel features.
Chair Hogle opened the public hearing at 7:20 p.m.
Richard Paulsen, applicant, addressed the 20’ side setback on the south end of the lot, proposing
if he were to apply under the new UDC to shift the house and meet a 10’ setback, the variances
would be lessened. Paulsen explained that the neighbor’s utilities and shared septic tank are on
this property line with utility lines going around the tanks, making it problematic to be any closer
than 20’ from the property line. As well, drainage would be affected if shifting the house to the
south. Paulsen said there are too many obstacles to overcome in moving the house location closer
to the lot line.
Three were no further comments and Chair Hogle closed the public hearing at 7:24 p.m.
Commissioner Rynders asked what is the Washington Conservation District? Administrator
Cammilleri explained that this agency is responsible for wetland regulations. It is a contracted
agency to advise compliance with wetland issues and enforce the Wetland Conservation Act.
Wetland Specialist Jay Riggs advises on wetland issues for building proposals in Scandia.
Commissioner Rynders said that the lot across the street is also owned by the applicant; does this
have to be combined with the lot being built on? Administrator Cammilleri said no, it is not
contiguous. Planner Monson explained that the lot directly to the north, Lot 9 of the Bliss Plat, is
under the same ownership and will be required to be combined with the parcel being developed.
Commissioner Lubke asked Mr. Paulsen if he has talked with the Washington Conservation
District? Mr. Paulsen said yes, he has the wetland delineation report and TEP panel findings.
Commissioner Hogle said she understands that moving the house to the south is not reasonable
after hearing the remarks about utilities and drainage.
Commissioner Fodor asked for clarification about combining the lots. Planner Monson explained
that the ordinance requires that contiguous properties under the same ownership are required to
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be combined to make the lots more conforming. Administrator Cammilleri added that the goal is
to reduce other nonconformities and get as close as possible as to what the ordinance requires.
Cammilleri stated that Lot 9 has significant sloping and is not buildable; but adding the lots
together could be a benefit in lot area for any future accessory structures such as a small shed.
Mr. Paulsen said it has been frustrating work over the past two years to get to a plan that satisfies
the city and Watershed, saying the green area on the survey is a buffer area required by the
Watershed. Knowing that the lots need to be combined, there could be rearranging of the buffer
area. Commissioner Libby asked what if the buffer area is driven through? Mr. Paulsen said
service trucks can drive in this natural vegetation area, and repairs would be done if damaged.
Commissioner Fodor asked about the temporary driveway. Mr. Paulsen said it’s shown on the
survey to the back of the house for construction purposes and to service the well in the future.
Mr. Paulsen said he is not planning for it to be removed. Administrator Cammilleri said the
driveway will be addressed with the driveway permit with a condition to work with the city’s
public works department who have recognized the need to keep the culvert which should be fine.
Commissioner Rynders said evaluating the variance request for minimum action gives him
concern, saying this is a 2,400 square foot home with a driveway and deck. Rynders said this lot
already has issues with wetlands, and he is concerned the house is too large for the lot.
Administrator Cammilleri pointed out that the impervious lot coverage is at 9.4%, well under the
maximum of 25%.
Commissioner Rynders said the point is the number of variances being requested. If Mr. Paulsen
reduces the size of the structure, it will lessen the variances.
Mr. Paulsen said the square footage is 2,100 square feet because the survey calculation includes
the overhang, saying he has already shaved off 14’.
Commissioner Libby stated that the home will be multigenerational, with family caring for
elderly parents; a 3-bedroom home is not out of line for how she is analyzing it.
Commissioner Rynders said that adding Lot 9 makes it larger, and so he is alright with the house
size as presented.
Chair Hogle said variance criteria review has a certain subjectivity. Because the purpose of the
home is to be multigenerational, some leeway may be needed. Hogle said this variance request
does meet criteria with staff findings and she is okay with moving forward with approval of the
request for variances.
Administrator Cammilleri said the applicant has downsized the design from the initial request.
Commissioner Rynders asked about the condition that the culvert be removed after completion
of the work. Administrator Cammilleri advised that it would be okay to remove this condition.
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Commissioner Libby asked about Condition #6 to require a tree replacement plan, as the lot
appears heavily wooded in the back. Administrator Cammilleri said the applicant will submit a
landscape plan along with the grading plan to show trees being removed, and their replacement.
Mr. Paulsen said only necessary tree removal will be done for the driveway and building area.
Rynders, second by Libby, moved to adopt PC Resolution No. 2022-14, Approving
Variances for 18558 Langly Avenue, with an amendment to remove the requirement from
Condition #4 that requires removal of the culvert servicing the temporary driveway.
Motion carried 5-0 by roll call vote.
The recommendation to approve the variance request will be presented to the City Council at
their meeting on November 16, 2022.
DISCUSSION ON SOLAR FARM MORATORIUM AND STUDY
At the last meeting, it was reported that the community survey results on commercial solar farms
was inconclusive in giving direction on regulating solar farms. Administrator Cammilleri advised
the Commission to not waste time working on an ordinance that the council may not support, but
rather provide research on the criteria laid out in the moratorium in a report to the Council. The
Commission should evaluate whether the current regulations are adequate for the city’s goals in
regulating solar farms, with a focus on the nuisance visibility component. Cammilleri noted an
example from Section 3.1 of the moratorium – are appropriate CUP requirements in place to
screen the facilities, and how could screening be improved.
Administrator Cammilleri explained the goal is to produce a report with findings and
recommendations in terms of regulating solar farms. The Commission can recommend what
should be done based on rationale within the report, but needs to make sure all rationale is set out
appropriately. Cammilleri said the report can give information, then let the Council decide which
direction to go.
The Commission reviewed the City of Wyoming’s zoning map showing a commercial solar
overlay primarily along certain corridors within the city. Commissioner Lubke said this could be
a way to map Scandia viewsheds and where solar could be allowed or not allowed.
Commissioner Rynders said the survey results showed that some of the public would like to see
better screening and better enforcement by the city, and that solar arrays be only allowed in
specific designated areas.
Administrator Cammilleri said they had hoped the survey would give a clear mandate on
direction, but this didn’t happen. Chair Hogle said the survey had a low response rate with
divided opinions both for and against solar farms.
Commissioner Lubke said two recommendations could be that 1) require a ground box
transformer versus poles, for a goal to minimize poles; 2) require screening, including screening
canvas, to be completed before the arrays are installed. Administrator Cammilleri said that
vegetation takes time to grow, and the city needs to provide a developer with a realistic time
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frame to establish screening, and there could be challenges to doing this. Staff will consult with
the city attorney on the ability to withhold a building permit until landscaping is established.
The Commission asked staff to draft a report for discussion at the next meeting, including goals
to amend the ordinance for better screening with flexibility, better enforcement action and
corrective action capabilities, specific designations of areas where solar farms can be built,
minimizing poles, and requiring screening to be in place prior to installation of arrays.
CITY COUNCIL UPDATES
Planner Monson reported the following actions by the City Council at their meeting on October
18, 2022.
• Approved Variances to add onto an existing cabin and construct a detached garage,
located at 16940 197th Street North with the conditions as recommended by the
Commission.
• Approved an extension of a previously approved variance, located at 19235 Larkspur
Avenue North to June 20, 2024 as recommended by the Planning Commission.
• Approved the Final Plat for Tii Gavo 2nd Addition. The Planning Commission in August
recommended approval of the Preliminary Plat, also approved by the Council at their
August 16th meeting.
• The City Council elected to move forward with a new consultant for planning services,
starting in 2023.
FUTURE ITEMS: Next meeting – December 6, 2022
There is a proposed conditional use permit, a review of a draft solar report, and a potential
subdivision.
ADJOURNMENT
Rynders, second by Lubke, moved to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 5-0.
The meeting adjourned at 8:57 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Brenda Eklund
City Clerk