2. Paulsen supplement 18558 Langly 11-18-22From: Tom Langer
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 11:26 AM
To, Frank Brodeen
Cc: Richard Paulsen; Shawn Kupcho
Subject: RE: 2020-11411_Paulson Residence (18558 Langly Ave N) - Revised Rain Garden Location -
Drainage Overview Map
Hi Frank,
Two items that are needed will be cross sections of the two stormwater features and buffer monument
locations.
I have attached versions that can be directly incorporated into the plans.
Buffer monuments will need to be installed (can be after construction) and their locations called out on
the site plan. A buffer monument can be either a ground flush iron rod or another form of declaring
signage denoting the buffer and conservation of the area. The buffer monuments will need to be placed
at lot lines and at least every 200 ft across the green line or at any major change in direction.
The last watershed item will then be declaration agreement for buffer and SW management. Once
Richard confirms the project has been approved by the City, I will work with him complete a declaration
for recording followed by issuance of his Amended watershed permit. For now, I have attached the
template we will be using for this.
Thanks!
Tom Langer
Riparian Permit Specialist I Carnelian Marine St. Croix Watershed District
11660 Myeron Rd North I Stillwater, MN 55082
Phone: S j651) 275.74521 Cell: 507.276.8056 8 www.croscwd.org
From: Frank Brodeen <Frank:Brodeen@widseth.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:30 PM
To: Tom Langer <tom.langer@croscwd,org>
Cc: Richard Paulsen <richard cedarwoodmn.com>; Shawn Kupcho <Shawn.Kupcho@widseth _com>
Subject: RE: 2020-11411_Paulson Residence (18558 Langly Ave N) - Revised Rain Garden Location -
Drainage Overview Map
Good Afternoon Tom,
Thanks for the comments below. I had a conversation with Jay Riggs regarding the wetland boundary
and we have sorted out the confusion, confirming that the red dashed line on our site plan is the correct
wetland boundary line.
Please see the attached revised site plan and supporting computation documents that address the
remaining comments.
PROPOSED RAIN GARDEN - NW
CARNELIAN
I-�`
- MARINE
- ST. CROIX WATERSHED DISTRICT
Small Residential Project Stormwater Worksheet
Demonstrating compliance with Rule 2.4.1 for residential projects, including subdivision of less than 4
lots, entailing'/4 acre or less of impervious surface.
Project Address 18558 LANGLY AVENUE N, SCANDIA , MN 55047
Determine Water Quality and Volume Control Standard
STEP 1: Quantify the Impervious Surfaces[.
(a) Existing Impervious: 0 SF
(b) Existing Impervious Disturbed: 0 SF
(c) Total Impervious (Existing + Proposed): 1,694 SF
(d) New & Reconstructed Impervious: 1,694 SF
Date 9/26/22
3,997 TOTAL PROJECT
IMPERVIOUS, SEE AMENDED
SOILS WORKSHEET FOR
REMAINING SITE IMPERVIOUS.
STEP 2: Will Proposed Activity Trigger the District's Redevelopment Criteria? (Check One) N/A
❑ If (b) > (a) x 50%, then stormwater management is required for all impervious onsite.
Use (c) in STEP 3.
❑ If (b) < (a) x 50%, then stormwater management is required for new & reconstructed impervious.
Use (d) in STEP 3.
STEP 3: Determine the Treatment Volume Requirement.
1,694 (c or d) x 12-a"Inches)2 x (0.9) / 12 = 356 cubic feet (e)
2.8
BMP Selection and Siting
STEP 4: Preliminary Identification of Onsite Soils.
Identify the Hydrologic Soil Group (HSG) of onsite soils based on the Washington County Soil Survey published by the
Natural Resources Conservation Service available online at http://websoilsurvey.nres.usda.gov/app[WebSoilSurvey.aspx
or hosted on the District's webmap at https://www.eorinc.io/maps/CMSCWD/. Soils review determines applicable Credit
Multiplier in Step 5.
The HSG of onsite soils are predominantly: AO B C D
' "Impervious surface" means a compacted surface, or a surface covered with material (i.e., gravel, asphalt, concrete, Class 5, etc.) that
increases the depth of runoff compared to natural soils and land cover. Including but not limited to roads, driveways, parking areas,
sidewalks and trails, patios, tennis courts, basketball courts, swimming pools, building roofs, covered decks, and other structures.
Permeable hard surfaces are considered impervious surfaces but may receive treatment volume credit if designed in accordance with
District guidance. Treatment volume requirements may be waived for private drives on residential lots at least 10 acres in size if the
drive is bordered downgradient by vegetated open space or a vegetated filter strip with a minimum width of 5 feet and runoff does not
discharge directly to wetland, groundwater -dependent natural resource, or public water.
z 2.8 -inches if the BMP is located in a buffer (Rule 4.5.2(d)(ii)); 4.2 -inches if the BMP is tributary to landlocked basin (Rule 2.4.1(b))
Emmons and Olivier Resources, Inc - 1 - July 2022
CARNELIAN
- MARINE
- ST. CROIX WATERSHED DISTRICT
STEP 5: Select the Appropriate BMP Design.
Treatment volume credit for BMPs is identified in Table 1 on a per unit surface area basis. See companion document,
BMP Design Guidance, for specific design criteria required to receive the treatment volume credit identified. Most BMP
credits are based on the HSG identified in STEP 4.
TABLE 1. BMP Treatment Volume Credit.
` See District Design Details for each practice for specific design criteria to receive treatment volume credit.
BMP Siting and Sizing Guidelines: Site BMPs downslope of impervious surfaces in most permeable soils. Site BMPs in
HSG A and B soils wherever feasible to maximize credit by providing infiltration of stormwater. Rooftop downspouts
provide flexibility to direct runoff to a variety of BMPs. In particular, raingardens must accept rooftop or driveway
runoff, where feasible.
Emmons and Olivier Resources, Inc - 2 - July 2022
Treatment Volume Credit Multiplier
BMP
(CF/SF unless otherwise noted)
Primary Design Assumptions`
Hydrologic Soil Grou HSG
A B C D
• Shallow surface storage (3 -inches)
Amended Soils with
0'4
• Compost -amended soil depth (6 -inches)
Depressional Storage
• Bulk density testing required unless District staff
observes soil amendment process
Raingardens
• Surface ponding depth of 18-incbes (HSG A, C & D)
(Bioretention &2.1
1.8
1.5
1.5
• Surface ponding depth of 15 -inches (HSG B)
Biofiltration)
• Perforated underdrain (HSG C & D)
• 4 -ft channel bottom with 3:1 side slopes
600 CF
500 CF
400 CF
400 CF
• 2% channel slope with earthen check dant every 60
Vegetated Swale with
/check
/ check
/check
/ check
or 75 -ft based on soil HSG
Check Dams
dam
dam
dam
dam
• Over -excavate 30 in and backfill with engineered
planting medium
• Perforated underdrain (HSG C & D)
Permeable Hard Surfaces
• 18 -incites of rock storage
Permeable Paver
(e.g''
0.6
0.6
0.4
0.4
18 -inch sand layer required for HSG C and D soils
Patio, Porous Concrete
Perforated underdrain (HSG C & D)
Driveway)
Infiltration Trench /
1 2
1 2
0 8
0 8
3 -ft of rock storage
French Drain
4 -ft wide
` See District Design Details for each practice for specific design criteria to receive treatment volume credit.
BMP Siting and Sizing Guidelines: Site BMPs downslope of impervious surfaces in most permeable soils. Site BMPs in
HSG A and B soils wherever feasible to maximize credit by providing infiltration of stormwater. Rooftop downspouts
provide flexibility to direct runoff to a variety of BMPs. In particular, raingardens must accept rooftop or driveway
runoff, where feasible.
Emmons and Olivier Resources, Inc - 2 - July 2022
CARNELIAN - MARINE - ST. CROIX WATERSHED DISTRICT
Use TABLE 1 and the BMP siting and sizing guidelines above to fill in the proposed BMP design in TABLE 2 below.
TOTAL Treatment Volume Credit (f) must meet or exceed the Treatment Volume Requirement (e).
TABLE 2. Proposed BMP's Treatment Volume Credit.
COLUMN: A
B
C
D
E
BMP
HSG
BMP Surface Area (SF)
or
No. of Check Dams (No.)
Credit Multiplier
from Table 1
(CF/SF or
CF/check dam
Treatment Volume
Credit (CF)
[Column C x Column D]
Example:
Raingarden 1
B
200 SF BMP Surface Area
1.8
360 CF
RAINGARDEN NW
A
170 SF BMP SURFACE AREA
2.1
356 CF
TOTAL Treatment Volume Credit (CF)
356 CF (}�
STEP 6: Onsite Soil Verification
Soil borings are recommended in the locations of proposed BMPs in order to assess the infiltration capacity of the soil as
characterized by the hydrologic soil group (HSG). Soil boring results guide the selection of the BMP(s) and helps to
ensure the BMP(s) will function properly. In lieu of borings, soil verification may be achieved by review of other
applicable data (septic system percolation tests/soil logs, test pits, etc.).
STEP 7: Final Siting & Sizing
Revise BMP siting and sizing, as necessary, based on results from the onsite soil verification. Return to STEP 5 and
revise TABLE 2.
Treatment volume must meet or exceed required olume to meet District Rules and be considered for a permit. Does
STEP 5 (f) meet or exceed STEP 3 (e) ? Yes No (circle one)
TREATMENT VOLUME FOR AMENDED SOILS DOES NOT MEET REQUIRED VOLUME FOR SITES TOTAL
PROPOSED IMPERVIOUS. SEE PROPOSED AMENDED SOILS WORKSHEET FOR PROPOSED
TREATMENT VOLUME FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE'S IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
Emmons and Olivier Resources, Inc -3. July 2022
Please let us know if you need anything else regarding an amended permit.
Thanks!
Frank Brodeen
Civil Engineer
6$1 35$,-2345
5368 266th Street
PO Box 730
Wyoming, MN 55092
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From: Tom Langer <tom.lanRer@croscwd.ora>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 12:27 PM
To: Frank Brodeen <Frank.Brodeen@widseth.com>
Cc: Richard Paulsen <richard@cedarwoodmn.com>; Shawn Kupcho <Shawn.Kupcho@widseth.com>
Subject: RE: 2020-11411_Paulson Residence (18558 Langly Ave N) - Revised Rain Garden Location -
Drainage Overview Map
Hi Frank,
Lets touch base when you have a minute. Please call my cell.
Two main items to update, can you more clearly outline the vegetation restoration plans (5ft buffer in
front yard from road to deck, anything behind deck into back yard that is disturbed will need native
plantings/seed (call out seed mix/planting plans).
There was a lot of discussion this spring and I reconfirmed with Jay Riggs (WCA official) this morning that
the current wetland boundary is incorrect. The correct boundary is what is currently labeled as Edge of
Water in your sight plan. This will significantly reduce the wetland footprint and the associated buffer.
Thanks,
Tom Langer
Riparian Permit Specialist I Carnelian Marine St. Croix Watershed District
11660 Myeron Rd North I Stillwater, MN 55082
Phone: s 651 275-7452 I Cell: 507.276.8056 a www.croscwd.org
From: Frank Brodeen <Frank.Brodeen@widseth.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 9:17 AM
To: Tom Langer <tom.laneer@croscwd.ore>
Cc: Richard Paulsen <rchard@cedarwoodmn.com>; Shawn Kupcho <Shawn.Kupcho@widseth.com>
Subject: FW: 2020-11411—Paulson Residence (18558 Langly Ave N) - Revised Rain Garden Location -
Drainage Overview Map
Good Morning Tom,
Just following up on the email below regarding the Paulsen Residence at 18558 Langly Ave N.
I know you were on vacation last week so I'm sure you are busy catching up on things this week (always
a hole to dig yourself out of after a vacationl) but just wanted to touch base on the below and attached.
Feel free to give me a call if anything needs to be discussed or if you have any direction on what the next
steps are.
Thanks,
Frank Brodeen
Civil Engineer
651-358-2345
5368 266th Street
PO Box 730
Wyoming, MN 55092
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From: Frank Brodeen
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 11:24 AM
To: Tom Langer <tom.lanRer@croscwd.ore>
Cc: Richard Paulsen <rchard@cedarwoodmn.com>; Shawn Kupcho <Shawn.Kupcho@widseth.com>
Subject: RE: 2020-11411_Paulson Residence (18558 Langly Ave N) - Revised Rain Garden Location -
Drainage Overview Map
Good Morning Tom,
Thank you for the feedback and comments below.
We have reviewed and addressed the comments below into our proposed drawings.
Please see the attached revised certificate of survey drawing, rain garden and amended soils
computation sheets, and a drainage overview map.
We believe these revisions address the comments listed below.
Please feel free to reach out with any questions on the attached.
Thanks,
Frank Brodeen
Civil Engineer
651-358-2345
5368 266th Street
PO Box 730
Wyoming, MN 55092
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From: Tom Langer <tom.langer@croscwd.org>
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 11:04 AM
To: Frank Brodeen <Frank.Brodeen@widseth.com>
Cc: Richard Paulsen <richard@cedarwoodmn.com>; Shawn Kupcho <Shawn.Kuacho@widseth.com>
Subject: RE: 2020-11411_Paulson Residence (18558 Langly Ave N) - Revised Rain Garden Location -
Drainage Overview Map
Hi Frank,
Thanks for the site visit discussion and continued efforts on this.
I have been able to talk with both the District Engineer and Mike to gain greater context to previous
discussions and have a few final recommendations that I think help better blend some of the District
requirements while alleviating some of the buffer concerns Richard had.
1) Both Mike and Engineer recalled discussing the premise of getting sheet flow across the driveway into
the front yard area before the basin. They both feel that utilizing the amended soils with the 3 -inch
depressional storage still is a very viable option to gain additional stormwater treatment on site and
shouldn't interfere with the intent of the PCA low floor requirements. Then any outstanding difference
should be applied to a larger scaling of the proposed rain garden.
2) Ensuring flow: The plans should be clear and ensure that the pitch of the driveway doesn't funnel
water right down and back into the street. It should be crowned or angled to aide the sheet flow.
3) The portion of the front yard that gets incorporated into the depressional storage area (3inch
depressional area with amended soils) will still require the buffer easement (50ft average and 25 ft
minimum), however, given that utilizing this area as the BMP will force the soils to be disturbed
(amending process), we will only ask that 5ft from the wetland fringe (rather than all 25 ft) be restore to
native plantings in the front yard area (orange area below). The remainder of the front yard buffer can
be restored to yard grasses and mowed. All other buffer areas on the side of the home and into the
backyard will still be required to go back to native plants and require a native planting plan.
Please let me know if these item makes sense or if any clarifications are needed. Overall, I think this will
help alleviate some of the initial concerns Richard had with the native planting requirements in the front
yard buffer and still allow him to achieve all stormwater and buffering requirements. I've included a
screenshot with these comments to assist.
Thanks,
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Tom Langer
Riparian Permit Specialist I Carnelian Marine St. Croix Watershed District
11660 Myeron Rd North I Stillwater, MN 55082
Phone: Q 651 275-74521 Cell: 507.276.8056 a www.croscwd.org
From: Frank Brodeen <Frank.Brodeen@widseth.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:25 AM
To: Tom Langer <tom.langer@croscwd.ors>
Cc: Richard Paulsen <richard@cedarwoodmn.com>; Shawn Kupcho <Shawn.Kupcho@widseth.com>
Subject: 2020-11411—Paulson Residence (18558 Langly Ave N) - Revised Rain Garden Location - Drainage
Overview Map
Good Morning Tom,
Thanks for meeting out on site on Tuesday and discussing some of the issues we are facing with the
proposed Paulson Residence.
We have developed a revised rain garden location/concept and wanted to pass it along for your
reference and comment.
Attached is a revised Certificate of Survey, Drainage Overview Map and the stormwater worksheet for
the proposed rain garden. We added some text explanation to the stormwater worksheet describing our
site constraints. We also visually highlighted the septic/well setbacks and elevation constraints on the
Drainage Overview Map as discussed on Tuesday.
Just wanted to pass these along for a quick review if you have time to make sure we are tracking things
moving forward.
Please don't hesitate to reach out with any questions or comments on the attached.
Thanks!
'Treatment Volume Credit Multiplier
BMP
(CF/SF unless otherwise noted)
Primary Design Assumptions'
I lvdrolo sic Soil Grou IISG
A
B C E D
Shallow surface storage (3 -inches)
Amended Soils with
0.4
• Compost -amended soil depth (6 -inches)
Depressional Storage
• Bulk density testing required unless Distri
observes soil amendment process
Tom Langer
Riparian Permit Specialist I Carnelian Marine St. Croix Watershed District
11660 Myeron Rd North I Stillwater, MN 55082
Phone: Q 651 275-74521 Cell: 507.276.8056 a www.croscwd.org
From: Frank Brodeen <Frank.Brodeen@widseth.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:25 AM
To: Tom Langer <tom.langer@croscwd.ors>
Cc: Richard Paulsen <richard@cedarwoodmn.com>; Shawn Kupcho <Shawn.Kupcho@widseth.com>
Subject: 2020-11411—Paulson Residence (18558 Langly Ave N) - Revised Rain Garden Location - Drainage
Overview Map
Good Morning Tom,
Thanks for meeting out on site on Tuesday and discussing some of the issues we are facing with the
proposed Paulson Residence.
We have developed a revised rain garden location/concept and wanted to pass it along for your
reference and comment.
Attached is a revised Certificate of Survey, Drainage Overview Map and the stormwater worksheet for
the proposed rain garden. We added some text explanation to the stormwater worksheet describing our
site constraints. We also visually highlighted the septic/well setbacks and elevation constraints on the
Drainage Overview Map as discussed on Tuesday.
Just wanted to pass these along for a quick review if you have time to make sure we are tracking things
moving forward.
Please don't hesitate to reach out with any questions or comments on the attached.
Thanks!
Frank Brodeen
Civil Engineer
651-358-2345
5368 266th Street
PO Box 730
Wyoming, MN 55092
W i DSETH
Widseth.com
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